Software
Houzz Logo Print
effdeevee

winter temp's.

19 years ago

THIS IS THE FIRST YEAR THAT I WILL TRY TO OVER-WINTER SOME FIG TREES (CONTAINERIZED ... 20 GALLON POT) IN AN UNHEATED STORAGE SHED. IT CAN GET PRETTY COLD IN NYC, AND I'D LIKE TO KNOW IF THERE'S A CHEAP WAY TO KEEP TEMP'S. ABOVE FREEZING ?

I WAS THINKING ALONG THE LINES OF MAYBE A HEAT LAMP ON A TIMER/THERMOSTAT COMBO ... SO IT KICKS IN ONLY AT TEMP'S BELOW 35 DEGREES, ... OR POSSIBLY SOME KIND OF THERMO-CONTROLLED SPACE HEATER/ ETC. ETC. WHAT ABOUT A LOW-WATTAGE LIGHT BULB, PLACED UNDER THE POT TO KEEP THE SOIL WARM, AND, BY CONVECTION-CURRENTS, "BATHE" THE TREE IN WARMISH AIR RISING UP AROUND THE BRANCHES. BY DOING THIS ONLY THE TREE WILL BE WARM, WHICH IS THE GOAL.

THE HEAT SOURCE MUST BE LOW-WATTAGE, AND CHEAP TO RUN, IF POSSIBLE.

ANY SUGGESTIONS ON HOW TO RAISE THE TEMP'S IN THIS SMALL SHED TO PREVENT HARD FREEZES. BY THE WAY THE SHED IS ABOUT 8-FT X 6-FT X 8-FT. AND MADE FROM WOOD. THE SHED ALSO GETS WINTER SUN HITTING IT FOR ABOUT 4 - 5 HOURS IN LATE AFTERNOON, FROM DEC. UNTIL APRIL. IT'S REALLY JUST THE NIGHTS THAT ARE FREEZING COLD. JANUARY THROUGH MARCH ARE THE WORST MONTHS FOR FREEZING IN NYC.

I NEED SOME IDEAS ... FAST! THANKS FOR YOUR HELP. FRANK

Comments (7)

  • 19 years ago

    If it fits, put a 33 gallon plastic garbage can over the tree and stick a 7 watt christmas tree bulb in there with it. I would use a dark colored bulb (blue??) to keep the spirit of darkness in with the tree. A small bulb should give just enough heat to keep temps above freezing. Disclaimer: I have never tried this. I just suggested this method to my brother in law who is getting ready to over winter a tree in Minnesota. I, personally, have never tried this. Good luck. FF

  • 19 years ago

    FRANK,
    I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE THAT MUCH TO WORRY ABOUT
    I WOULD SAY SINCE THEY ARE ALREADY PROTECTED
    FROM WIND BY THE SHED AND THEY ARE WATER PROOFED
    A LAYER OF BURLAP AND SOME OLD BLANKETS OR BETTER
    YET RUG SHOULD DO THE TRICK.
    IN MY UNHEATED GARAGE ON L.I I USUALLY DONT EVEN RAP
    THEM , BUT THOSE OUTSIDE I DO AS I TOLD YOU
    WITH THE ADDITION OF A LAYER OF TAR PAPER AND PLASTIC
    FOR WATER PROOFING. THIS YEAR I MAY EXPERIMENT
    WITH A HEAT MAT PLACED UNDERNEATH. THE THING IS IF
    THEY JUMP AHEAD AND BLOOM TO SOON YOU HAVE TO TAKE THEM
    BACK IN WITH EVERY REPORT OF FROST.
    SO I GUESS GOING OVERBOARD DOESN'T HELP.

    MARCANTONIO

  • 19 years ago

    Frank,
    Is there any kind of insulation in the walls of the shed? That would help to slow the fast temperature fluctuations. Maybe some rigid foam board with a reflective facing could be added. The possibility of using heater tape (like the type used to keep water pipes from freezing) wrapped around the pots to help keep the roots from freezing is also an option, it only comes on near 32F, comes in various lengths and is cheap to power. This is basically what we do to our pump house at the lake cabin. Adding a muffin fan to keep the air circulating lightly will help keep the air from stratifying. Hope this gives you some ideas to work with, I am lucky that I have just enough room in the basement by the garage door for my collection (stays cool and dark most of the winter).
    Woody.

  • 19 years ago

    Frank, Fig trees can take cold down to twenty degrees without damage. I usually overwinter in an unheated garage and have had the temperature go much lower than that. It seems that the mass of cement in the garage keeps the temperature from falling quickly, and this seems to give the trees time to adjust.
    Dormancy is nature's way of protecting these plants. Allowing them to get cold and stay cold helps them go into deep dormancy. Many people on the forum wrap or cover in cold areas without benefit of a permanent structure or heat. There are many posts on the subject on the forum. Doing a search for overwintering will give you a feel for what works in the region.
    Some people do heat and simply keep the temperature under 40 degrees. It certainly is an option, and the way to go if you are totally uncomfortable without heat. But by heating your structure you keep the plants in a less dormant state, and more prone to damage if the heating system fails.
    If your shed has a good deal of mass (wood, dirt floor, cement, bulky contents,etc.)perhaps a little insulation board on the walls or surrounding the figs would provide enough protection (and peace of mind).

  • 19 years ago

    I agree with fignut. I keep a couple of trees in a detached unheated garage in central Jersey. I do cover the trees with leaves and a leaf bag though. I have not had any losses. I find that the trees are fine. But I will say that my yard gets a lot of sun.

    Dan Ralph

  • 19 years ago

    I have read somewhere in this forum regarding the use of some drums filled with water as insulation or something to that extend. Hope someone with such experiences can or have read the thread can point all of us into that direction.

  • 19 years ago

    THANKS ALL ... SOME OF YOU "FIGHEADS" GAVE ME ALTERNATIVES THAT I NEVER EVEN THOUGHT ABOUT.

    I'LL LET YOU KNOW HOW THE OVERWINTERING TURNS OUT IN THE COMING SPRING.

    THANKS AGAIN FOR ALL THE HELP. FRANK, FROM DA-BRONX

Sponsored