I have had the Magic Mill grinder and food processor for about 18 years. I used the grinder with some hard winter wheat in Wyoming, then with various other whole wheats after I moved to Texas. Never had a problem, even though I have not been known to take good care of my appliances. It was a little pricey but I am glad I got it. I use the processor a lot. I have used the blender and the bread mixer very much. Never had a problem. You can buy these things separately. It is noisy, but I just put up with that for the short duration of the project. Magic Mill products are usually sold in communities with lots of Mormons (Latter Day Saints). Or you can search through Google, I am sure. I also got the two best cookbooks in my house from them.

-- Marie

Apparently Electrolux of Sweden has bought out Magic Mill, but the grinders are still available, and CHEAPER than I remember! Here's a link. Scroll down this page, and the non-electric one is at the bottom. I have the electric one, the Ultramill. Good luck. -- Marie

Here is a link that might be useful: Magic Mill Flour Grinders

Thank you, Marie, for the info. There was a used KitchenAid mixer with grain milling attachment on auction on eBay, and not many bidders, so I waited until 45 seconds before the auction closed, put in my bid, and ... got it! I'm paying half of new price. Now I am eagerly awaiting its arrival from Texas.

Sounds good. Hope this turns out well. Let us hear about how it works out.

I just remembered another experience I had with a non-electric mill. Some years ago I volunteered to help with a sort of vacation bible school program being sponsored by a diverse group of organizations in our community. It included at least Jewish, Catholic, and Protestant participants. It was called Marketplace 29 A.D. and the idea was to have a non-proselytizng history-based event for the kids to enjoy. Different groups had booths representing merchants you would find in a Middle Eastern marketplace in the year 29 A.D. I was asked to be a wheat grower/flour miller. I was given a wonderful stone grinder that some local man had made. It had a vertical axis and I had to sit on a stool and spin the foot plate with my feet. The whole wheat would be dropped into an indentation on the top, and it fell through the narrow space between the spinning grinding stone and the stone that formed the top frame. I had a zip-lock bag at the bottom chute, so the kids could see the flour come out. I had my samples of wheat plants in pots, some whole wheat, and several bags of different types of flour. (Okay, I cheated. I used store-bought flour in the bags.) Kids were given rocks painted silver and gold in cloth draw string bags, and they were told to buy what they needed for their family for a month. Adults led them around and helped if they had questions. It was such a good lesson in life's necessities. I worked my B--- off grinding flour on that stone, and in a hour only came up with about 1/4 cup. It might be a replacement for all of those seldom-used treadmills and exercise bikes we have now!! I'll try to see if I still have the photos or the drawings of the stone grinder. I should mention, too, that anthropologists say that eating products of stone-ground flour causes the teeth to wear down a certain way, because of the tiny bits of stone in the product. That is how they identify stone-age skulls. Dentists reccommended against doing this on a long-term regular basis.

Boy have I rambled. Sorry. -- Marie

Marie, that was SO interesting! Good point about the stone burrs and teeth wearing away ... I am still waiting for my KitchenAid to arrive, the eBayer who sold it has the mistaken notion that Cashier's Checks has to clear his bank account before he ships, and has been sitting on my mixer ...figuratively speaking (smile) for10 days already after receipt of money ...When it finally arrives here, I will try it pronto and let you know how it went. Delina

So has it been shipped?

No, I check my email so hopefully every day because the Seller stated that he will mail email confirmation when the cashier's check has cleared his bank account and my item is shipped. I have always understood that a Cashier's Check from a bank is as good as cash, only more secure. Well, I have no option but to be patient! I received email on 10/16 that confirmed that Seller had received my cashier's check, and I'm getting antsy ... Delina

Has anyone use the Champion Juicer grain mill attachment?
I have already this juicer so I would prefer to buy an attachment than another machine.
Is it truly dust free? Is it practical to handle?
Thanks for your feedback,

MichÂle

Marie, what a cool demonstration that was! I would have loved to be a kid, carrying a gold rock around and looking at that demonstration! I often think of how much work must have gone in to grinding flour in days of old. Amazing that people even did it, huh? I'm sure that simply cooking the grains whole, as in hot cereal, was the more common way to eat them!

In response to Delina's hesitance to buy a "micro" technology mill, I just want to say that I THOROUGHLY researched buying a grain mill, and chose such a mill, the Whisper Mill. It has an unconditional lifetime warrantee, has been around for a good while now, and has a very dedicated following (myself included). All mills are loud, as I understand it. The "Whisper" Mill is hardly a whisper, but is quite bearable. It sounds like a vacuum cleaner to my ear. I think I paid $159 for it last year, which was the lowest price online. I use it constantly. The best thing about it is how FAST and FINE the flour grinds. We're talking about the softest powder, created in SECONDS. It does this in one single pass through the mill, unlike most mills which require several passes to make a fine flour. Plus, the whole thing is contained, so your kitchen doesn't get covered in flour dust.

A new mill, which came out in August, 2001, is the Ultra Mill. So far I've heard nothing bad about this mill. It uses the same technology, and has a LIMITED Lifetime warrantee. Compact storage, comes with optional colors (cost extra). I've seen it online for as low as $149. Claims to be even quieter than the Whisper mill.

I know you already made a purchase, Delina, but I can't resist throwing in my $.02! :)

Sunshine_Amy, I appreciate your input! I would love to get a mill one day. Right now, the "ToDo" and "ToGet" list is still a bit long and it's near the bottom. ;) But I've saved this thread for future reference.

Marie, that's an awesome story! I'd love to see the plans or a pic of that foot-powered mill! Sounds interesting!

Modjadje, did you get your mill okay and how do you like it?

Hi Wingnut, I did get it at last ... see my little update response to Marie's question on the new thread. Delina

And it was very good ... the grain milling attachment on the KitchenAid did a super job. No flour was blown around the kitchen, it all softly fell into the bowl. Noise was not much, and not high-pitched. The texture was just right and it made a delicious loaf of bread in my breadmaker. Yum-Yum! Thank you to all of you who provided input. Delina

Awesome! Once we get into the new house and the new garden's built and producing wheat, I'd LOVE to get one! Thanks for the info on yours, Delina. :)

I bought a Country Living Grain Mill from GrindWheat.com so I could make my own flour. I can't believe how fine a flour is is able to produce. Just my opinion.

Here is a link that might be useful: GrindWheat.com

Champion Juicer grain mill is OK. I like it better than hand milling cause I'm lazy. I sieve my flour to get some of the bran out as the champ only grinds so fine. But for a cheap mill it is a good value. Also have Country Living mill.

I've been sifting out some of my bran also, saving it in the freezer till I get enough to make bran muffins. I hope it works!

I have a Golden Grain Grinder that is 30+ years old...my dad gave it to me about 15 years ago. I really like it. It has 2 stones that grind the grains and you can adjust it from coarse to cake-flour fine.

All of you that are grinding wheat, can you tell me what is the whitest wheat? We have several Amish and Mennonite communities near us and I have bought several wheat and flours from them, but they all have their own name for them. Some call it "naturally" white wheat...is that whole wheat, or just unbleached? Last week I bought 3 lbs of "hard spring white wheat" to grind, and it does seem to be whiter than a lot of wheats.

I just replied to another post on this, but since you asked specifically about the Champion Grain Mill, I'll add it here too. I bought my juicer & grain mill on ebay, & it was a really good deal.

I also have a Vita-Mix, but I like the Champion mill better. If you buy one, be sure you take it off after every use & clean it. There is a lot of flour that stays in the mill. I poke a skewer up it to get it all out. I usually grind a large amount at 1 time & freeze it.

Allenwrench, maybe you haven't tightened the knob enough. My flour comes out very fine.

Michele, I forgot your other 2 questions. Duh! It is practically dust free. You snap the bag on that collects the flour. I take 2 clothes pins & pin it close to the machine & then I don't get any dust. It's real easy to attach & use. I don't think you can go wrong since you already have the juicer.

Hello, I was looking at this grinder VillaWare Power Grinder, and wondered if it would be ok for grinding flour. Any thoughts?
Thank you so much,
Candy

Candy, I looked up a couple of different sites and no one says anything about it being used for flour. Most speak of it as being good for grinding meat. Still, it certainly looks sturdy, and it does have a fine setting. I'd try to find the Villaware Company and ask them.

George
Tahlequah, OK

Thank you George, I also got the same impression about this. BUT it says will grind berries, as in wheat berries??? It does look sturdy, but, I am still a bit concerned it is not what I am looking for.