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My first Cuban treefrog

19 years ago

He is sitting in my freezer as we speak. Should I just toss him in the yard when I'm done? Maybe I will donate him to a school for dissection! I feel like a murderer... I am such an animal pacifist that I don't even eat meat. I keep repeating to myself that it was a necessary kill - it was for the greater good.

Yikes....

Heather W

Comments (16)

  • 19 years ago

    Congratulations, they get easier with each and every kill! Remember, Florida thanks you for your efforts!

  • 19 years ago

    He didn't feel a thing in the freezer; dig a little hole and plant him so he can do some good as fertilizer. I had a tiny baby one on a plumeria I brought home the other day so I threw it in the creek expecting some lucky fish would get him.

    Suzanne

  • 19 years ago

    just wondering, do any of you kill the lizards/anoles too?

  • 19 years ago

    I can't say for any one else, but I don't kill the lizards, as they all eat bugs. But the Cuban tree frogs eat lizards and other frogs and such not bugs, so those I kill. Or rather make Ralph do it. :o)

  • 19 years ago

    I just can't seem to be sure I can identify which frog is the bad one and which one is the good one. I hear that you can tell by the size of their toes but they all looks to have big toes to me. I would be horrified to find out I sent the wrong kind to froggy heaven so I have not even attempted this yet. And no - I cannot kill the lizards either. I'm a softy.

  • 19 years ago

    I'm afraid I have given up on the invasive brown anoles. They outnumber the green ones to such an extent that I think it's hopeless. I keep praying I can put a dent in the Cuban treefrogs, but even I (the eternal optimist) don't believe I can reverse the tide of the brown anole.

    Besides that...there is some evidence that the lovely native Carolina (green) anoles have managed to find a niche for themselves and hang on. With the treefrogs, the native green ones (and others) are just disappearing, period. So my hope is that by killing the Cubans, I'm helping to save the natives. And by accepting the brown anoles, I'm not necessarily dooming the Carolina anoles to extinction.

    A word of caution for those who choose to eliminate the brown anoles...don't forget that the native anole can ALSO be brown. It changes color from brown to bright green and back again in a flash. So it is easy to be mistaken on which one you are dealing with. There is a way to be certain, but I've forgotten the particulars. The brown anole to me just looks larger, has more markings on it, and sometimes has a slight ridge or crest thingie on its back.

    Down with Cuban treefrogs, for sure, but the lizard situation is a tougher call.

    Marcia

  • 19 years ago

    You did a very good thing Heather!

  • 19 years ago

    Thanks for the support; I've been feeling guilty. My husband is horrified at me for killing a sweet, innocent frog :) He doesn't know what has come over me; my husband is a big fan of frogs, all frogs. He told me today that there have been cases of frogs who were frozen reviving when they got defrosted. Is this really a possibility? I would hate to have gone through all this to kill the frog, only to have him be resurrected!

    Cheers!
    Heather W

  • 19 years ago

    I read somewhere that you should keep them in the freezer for at least 3 days to avoid 'defrosting.'

  • 19 years ago

    Please post a picture of what the cuban treefrog looks like and how to distinguish it from the native.....

  • 19 years ago

    Here is a link to the earlier thread, with a few photos & ID hints:
    http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/load/flgard/msg0716303912184.html

    Cheers!
    Heather W

    Here is a link that might be useful: Cuban Treefrog Thread

  • 19 years ago

    Ackkk !!!! I've been encouraging these things. ... Last year I intentionally would leave my porch light on to attract bugs so they'd come and feed on them! Didn't have a clue. I have lots of little lizards.. all colors.. even saw a green one and a brown one mating a few weeks ago.. I have a picture of one of the green tree frogs sleeping on the back of the light with what I assume is a cuban tree frog.. None of mine ever got past the two inch size.. but they certainly have the huge pads on their feet. when it rains and the gutter backs up, there are always 3-4 little heads peeking out over the top. I haven't seen many at all this year. The PVC thing sounds wonderful. It also might help us to take an assessment of what's in our areas...

  • 19 years ago

    Hi all, sorry for some bad news but I think the battle is already over, the tree frogs won!

    I service boats for a living and find frogs like the one in the picture below in boats that I work on all the time. The frogs climb into the boat then hide in all sorts of places. If I had a dollar for each one that has jumped out at me when I was trying to access some remote part of the boat I be rich!

    The boats get used all around central florida and I'm sure the frogs have been hitching rides for quite some time.



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    Two summers ago after we had quite a lot of rain a low spot in the parking lot filled up with water and I found at least 200 tadpoles that developed into 200 tiny cute little frogs. Not knowing what they were I let them happily hop away.

    Looking back now that may not have been a good thing to do as I'm sure some of the tiny frogs found new boat rides and have found new homes.

    Later, DC

  • 19 years ago

    DC, the wretches are popping up EVERYWHERE, that's for sure. But I still think we can make a difference in our own yards, at least where I am. Maybe there are other areas where it's done deal, but until I'm convinced that's the case in my yard, I'm gonna keep right on Frog Whackin'!

    I really want my green treefrogs back again! Call me a cockeyed optimist, call me crazy, call me anything but late for dinner...but I ain't given' up yet. (Even though I fear that one day there won't be a single native species left in Florida at all. *goes off muttering to self, "pythons and monitors and geckos, oh MY!"*)

    Marcia

  • 19 years ago

    I've been waging war on these guys for years. My Squirrel and Green TF population has been steadily decreasing for a long time. Leopard frog too.
    But just recently I almost dispatched the wrong frog. Late one night a couple of treefrogs almost leapt into the net, I popped them into a bin to be dealt with the next morning.
    In the light of day I discovered a pair of green and very indignant Barking Treefrogs, I turned them loose by one of the ponds. In the dark the pair had looked like warty Ctf's.
    The Barking TF has a granular look and grows to 2+ inches, I had not paid attention to the spotty pattern on their backs or their color as they were under the blue mossie zapper light and I had been very tired.
    I've since been told the Barking TF is slower and easier to catch.


    DC?
    Your frog looks rather like a Pine Woods Treefrog, it's hard to tell if his back is smooth.

    Here's a couple of CF shots I took a few years ago.

    And... Hi everyone, I sometimes lurk but haven't posted for years.

  • 19 years ago

    Yvonne, I agree with you that it is sometimes tricky to identify which one you have, especially in the late evening, or when the Cubans are not in their pasty coloration. (When they are that sickening pallid color, there's no mistaking them, but when they are browner and blotchier, they can fool you, if you don't get a really good look at them.) And I sure wouldn't want anyone to dispatch any frog they weren't certain was an invasive. Glad you took another look at yours! I don't think I've ever actually seen a barking treefrog in person...(in frog?)
    This year, I'm not seeing many frogs at all, good or bad. It's been so darn dry here, and we still are not getting the rains the rest of central Florida seems to be enjoying.

    Marcia

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