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diatomaceous earth and toads?

16 years ago

I am determined to make my veggie garden work this year! However, something always tries to thwart my attempts. I've planted pole beans and bush beans 3 times now and the cutworms decimate them from one night to the next day. I don't like to spray or use anything, but I'm tired of replanting, and decided to declare war on the multitude of imaginary worms whose bodies I haven't seen, but whose actions are evident! I found some old diatomaceous earth in my garage and dusted all the new emerging beans tonight in hopes that they'll still be there in the morning. Then, on the way in, I must have seen 15 tiny toads hopping around in, and around the veggie garden. I broke out in a sweat (actually, I was sweating already, it just started pouring out faster). Does DE hurt tiny toads? I know it hurts snails and slugs, but tiny toads? Does anyone know? I tried looking it up and really didn't find much. Maybe one anecdotal mention. I am kicking myself for doing the DE.

Anna

Comments (9)

  • 16 years ago

    Have you tried making collars out of toilet paper cardboard or paper towel cardboard to prevent the cut worms from getting to the seedling? Usually it rots away and allows the plant to grow inside. You can cut it in thirds or whatever size you think you need. :o)

  • 16 years ago

    Denise, Katkin,
    I read in one of the forums(don't ask where LOL) that cofee and cofee grounds help to keep snails at bay. Well I tried it. I had some plants almost dead from snail damage, well I'm happy to report that it did wonders for my plants
    I haven't seen a snail in months and I see very little damge.
    So whenever I have cofee and cofee grounds I just spread it around the plants that need it. WORKS FOR ME!

    As far as cut worms, I cut a ring from a plastic water bottles, I get 4 rings from one bottle and I slip it the ring around the trunk of the plant and push the ring in the soil abut a 1/2" that also works well for me against cut worms.

    Just had to put my two cents in
    Hugs, Carmen

  • 16 years ago

    Hi Denise!

    Thanks for the reassurance. I hope my little ones are ok. I have seen the occassional snail in the veggie garden, but I don't think they are causing this, as many of the beans are cut at the base overnight, and it would have to be a lot of snails, I think. I have many more in the rest of the yard than I do in the veggie garden. Carmen, maybe that is because of the concentration of coffee grounds in there?

    Next year I will be prepared by saving toilet paper rolls for the purpose. However, I find that many of the sowed beans are cut just as they are emerging, before they even rise up above the soil. I will be looking through my recycling bins today to see what I can use for this purpose.

    Thanks for your responses, ladies!

    Anna

  • 16 years ago

    Tiny toads? Are they maybe those little non-native greenhouse frogs?I doubt they'll suffer from the DE - which isn't very effective for caterpillars anyway, as imagardener sez.

    Here's a neat trick I learned years ago from Organic Gardening's TV show: simply stick 2-4 toothpicks or twigs into the soil right up against the stems of cutworm-threatened plants - spacing them equally - the caterpillars encircle stems to do their dirty work & this foils 'em.Just make sure the sticks extend @ least 1 inch into the soil(more is better) & a few inches above. This has worked for me & is much quicker & more dependable than collars; there're always lotsa twigs around handy, so I don't have to do much prep when setting out my transplants.

    HTH

  • 16 years ago

    Hi Carol!

    Your toothpick trick sounds interesting. I'll see if I have the patience to try it later on today. Somehow, I did not note any damage last night. Maybe it is snails? I don't see any dead snails or worms. A mystery!

    My yard is full of southern toads of all sizes. The little ones are easiest to see because they are out more of the day- the big ones are more visible after dusk. They breed in my pond and are a good pest control for my yard, so I love them. I am pretty sure they are native toads, fortunately. I'm glad you also feel the DE won't harm them. Thanks.

    Anna

  • 16 years ago

    Hi again = )

    When it comes to bean seedlings, my biggest prob has been SLUGS, which munch on the emerging seedlings just as they begin to poke up out of the ground = (

    My solution for that has been to plant LOTS of seeds - better odds of a fair number of survivors - & iron phosphate slug & snail bait. I understand it's fairly benign, environmentally - pkg sez it breaks down into fertiliser...?

  • 15 years ago

    Looking for ways to make sure I have delicious tomatoes. In order to help minimize bugs just today I added a toad pond (small container w/water and a rock for a platform) to my garden to keep the toads happy as I understand they feast on the pests. Well I also added some DE a little later in the day after reading and remembering how good it is to kill bugs, ants, etc.
    Tonight I got concerned about my toads so I took a late night stroll around the garden. They are happily hopping about. I'll keep a watch to make sure they're alright and keep you posted.

  • 3 years ago

    Thanks. I have small ants now coming and an occasional cockroach. I have pets in the yard some times and want to control the fleas. I also have bushes that when the due and rain falls will harbor mosquitoes and want to put DE down for them.