Good job Tiger~ I've never rooted in water before. Sticking a cutting in the soil has always worked for me. . . so hats off to you!

Maid

I have never had luck rooting in water so Tiger you have me beat! They seem to rot for me in water. Prob my water is toxic or something! hahahaha.
I root in spagnum moss or soil mix.
I did get a cut of the DS-70 variegated from Thailand and it started to root in the mail so I left it wrapped in spagnum with the saran wrap to finish rooting. It's doing great!,,,,Debbie

Variegated DS-70?? Can you show us a pic of that, Debbie? Sounds beautiful!

Tiger, DS-70, for me, is one of the toughest to root. I've gotten roots in water before, but the transfer to soil never works for me. And directly in soil, they seem to dehydrate and turn crispy before they even try to root. This summer, I rooted a bunch of cuttings in one of those rooting gel cups. They developed nice roots and it **seems** to have made a good transition to soil. I'll be more confident of that if it gets through the winter. Assuming it does, this will be my new favorite method for rooting DS-70.

Denise in Omaha

Congrats!

Deb, which Thai vendor had the variegated DS-70? I've seen a couple offered on ebay and they were beautiful!

Kelly

I actually like rooting directly in the mix so I don't have to transplant the cutting. I am very lazy gardener. Hehe

Kelly the vendor was Apodagis. I luckily got his last cut for this season. He told me he will have more next Spring for sale.

Denise I take awful pictures. (That's why I never post pictures here in the forum. haha) There is one for sale in Ebay by Fatplant2020 right now for you to see. The variegated form shows the variegation on the newest leaves and as the leaf matures the golden color fades to lighter green on the leaves. So the mature leaves are a 2 tone green with age is my understanding while new leaves show golden.
A friend I trade with here in Oklahoma also sent me 2 small rooted plants from his plant he had won from Fatplant2020 awhile back. (Hi Russell!!)
The leaves on Apodagis plant are smaller so far than the plantlets from my friend. I hope both are different plants they came from and the leaves stay different sized. Time will tell.
Happy growing all!,,,,Debbie

Here is a link that might be useful: Ebay DS-70 variegated auction link

I'll keep that in mind, Denise. Did it seem to matter if you let the roots get really big before you moved it to soil?

Tiger something you could try is adding a bit of soil into the water glass your rooting in. Depending on the size container your rooting in just a teaspoon for small container and a tablespoon for say a drinking glass. The plant will then soak up the water with soil ingredients and make a better transition to soil. I did do this once with multiflora and it worked fine. I'd forgotten when I wrote before.
Water roots and soil roots we have found are quite different from each other.,,,,Debbie

Hey Tiger,
I have rooted in water also. I wanted to say I have good luck with stripping leaves off a four inch section of hoya vine, then misting it and dipping in root hormone. i then bend the vine down and bury it in the pot with the mature vine. After a moth or two give it a tug aand you should have roots, if not leave it a little longer. I propagated my lauterbachii this way. That plant was over $30.00 at Logee's. I was not willing to lose the length of that vine, unless it actually developed roots. For me it was a sure fire way of starting another plant. It took about 1 year before I was satisfied with its development, but the really nice thing is when you cut the vine you actually end up with two plants for the price of one! I saved $30.00! Tiger can you also email me your address? I am going to check my karii tomorrow to see if I can cut it, i am pretty sure I can.

Thanks for the link, Debbie. The mature leaves look like regular DS-70 to me, but I do like the creamy look of the new leaves. Well, no matter - I couldn't squeeze one more thing in right now anyway. In fact, I just ordered a corner shelf to go in my GH that matches the chrome wire shelving I have in there in hopes of being able to spread stuff out a bit. It's hard to water when everything is packed so close together!

Denise in Omaha

Denise I can relate right now in where is everything gonna fit! I started my migration of plants into the house and still have some out on the back deck and the front porch. I have no clue what so ever where the ones still outside will get 'crammed'. It's the hanging baskets that I have the most prob trying to find a place for.
I need a sunroom built on is what I need,,,but in time I'd prob just fill it up too and be back to square one!
My nights have been being in the 50's and some mid to low 40's so I gotta get everything in and soon!,,,,Debbie

I think most of us can relate! I just bought a new shelving unit yesterday in preparation of moving stuff in!

Deb, I, too, would like that sunroom!

Kelly

I have rooted some in water, some in sh and some in mix. So far, knock on wood, they have all done well. It seems to me that the sh works the best though. Maybe cause of the heat here, I will need to try it that way in the winter.

Dee

Shelving Unit!! That's what I need to do! I was having the same trouble with not enough space to bring my pants in. Thank you Kelly!!

I like the idea of transitioning the plant slowly to soil. I'll try that with this one.