I buy those bamboo U-shaped stakes and those tiny jaw clips for the hair to secure the vines to the bamboo. That way my hoyas look neat.

Or, you can twine the vine around itself. I did that today with my "mystery" hoya. TammyPie

I do use the bamboo hoops as well as wire.....and I would let the hoya twine around itself if I knew for sure it would not impede leaf growth later on down the road. They can twine pretty tightly. Your "mystery" hoya, do the vines have leaves that have twisted upon themselves??

I usually try to prevent them from twining, not so much to keep the leaves from getting squished, but if I let them go they end up looking like they have dreadlocks, which in my opinion look unkempt. I think the Hoya can figure out where to put it's leaves to keep from being mauled though. I usually see twining on areas without leaves. So maybe the plant knows and releases when it starts to grow leaves? Who knows what they're thinking, I sure don't.

I just wind them around a hoop of wire, not tightly. I've never found it too deter future growth.

I just have too many Hoyas to let them get tangled in each other, lso, I find it looks messier. So I keep most of the long viny ones on hoops (mostly for me it's pubicalyx).

I tried hoops and didn't like them. I have one that still grows on a hoop, but it sure doesn't want to. Most of my viners are in hanging pots and grow up the hanger (some have the plastic hangers, some have the braided hangers...) When they get to the ceiling, I clip them (only because I don't like the across the ceiling look...) It doesn't hurt for them to hang down and then grow up their own vines. I have a Dischida ovata that is going nutso doing just that. It looks absolutely stunning really.

Hoyas are very resiliant and can take just about any kind of training. If you have a real "upwards" grower, a trellis might be a good answer. I have an australis ssp. tenuipes growing in my GH that I gave up trying to train and gave it a trellis. The only problem with a trellis is that once you commit to it, the leaves will always want to face the light source. So far, though, it still looks amazing.

What kind of vining Hoya are you growing, Nova?

Denise in Omaha

Well there are two that want to do this, one is a hoya Krimson princess, the other a hoya carnosa. They just seem to want to wrap around themselves and nothing else.....the KP is hanging so I am trying to train it to go upwards on the hanger, but it doesn't want to. The other carnosa, same things, it is hanging, and has already twined up and around its hanger, but ti also wants to twine itself......which thinking about it more now, would eventually look not so good. It is just so frustrating that every few days I have to untangle these two plants from themselves. I haven't had this problem with any of my hoyas on wires or hoops, just these two, but they are quite large and have quite a few vines growing. Thanks

Nova, my "mystery" hoya has not twisted upon itself, it has only one long vine. Also, there is several inches of vine between the leaves. So I just curled that vine around the plant, and did a very light "knot" secured with a small jaw clip. Best, TammyPie

Just use the hair clippies to make them go where you want. My pubicalyx gets wild and occasionally, I whack at it and use the clips to detain it so it isn't reaching out to grab me as I walk by.

Denise in Omaha