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The Proceed With Caution Hosta List

19 years ago

The discussion on Color Glory made me think of other hostas that don't perform well for several of us.

I also mentioned Super Nova as being one that has the same problem. Another hosta I would hesitate before buying is Lunar Eclipse.

So these I would say are "proceed with caution hostas" :

Color Glory

Super Nova

Lunar Eclipse

I can think of several more but would like to see what we all come up with.

Now I'm not saying that these can't be grown well somewhere by someone, just not me and some other hosta lovers. By the way if anyone has good pix of any of these "proceed with caution hostas" I would love to see them and maybe how you've coaxed their beauty out of them :-)

Are there any other hostas you would advise others to shy away from before buying for their garden? Ones you have experience with and can comment on? Hostas that are so thin leafed they always get slug eaten? Ones that always drawstring and tear? Ones that always burn?

Comments (21)

  • 19 years ago

    Morning Light
    Tattoo

    The first one disappeared on me and still remains the ONLY hosta I have ever completely lost.

    Tattoo comes back, but it just doesn;t seem to like any of the spots I want it to grow. Oh well - too many others out there that will cooperate to fight with this one. It can languish forever.

    I've also heard that Carnival is a drawstring nightmare but I have no experience with it.

    Great thread idea, Shade.

    Alexa

  • 19 years ago

    Oh yes Alexa, Morning Light! I have tried twice to grow that one and both times it just got smaller and smaller, until it dwindled away.
    Someone here (or maybe Hallsons) had a terrific pic of Tattoo. Mine never seems to thrive either. I was just looking at my Carnival the other day, thinking it looked different, have to get a closer look.

  • 19 years ago

    Cherry Berry
    Pandora's Crock...err...Box LOL
    Korean Snow - floppy and slugbait

    Those are a few choice ones for now. :)
    Andrea

  • 19 years ago

    Reversed - seems to be slug magnet for me, worse than Cherry Berry which both slugs and rabbits seem to like.

  • 19 years ago

    I second Morning Light and Tattoo - they both just sit and sit after 4 years and do not multiply.

    I'd also add Cat's Eye as it dwindled last year and did not come back this year. Had it three years.

    Cherry Berry is okay for me.

  • 19 years ago

    Island Charm. It was beautiful,when first planted,but then it slowly faded away,and now it is gone. Also Loyalist,never seems to grow for me. Phil

  • 19 years ago

    Cascades
    Brim Cup
    Many of the minis - too small to cope well with ordinary garden competition, but they may do OK in containers, apparently.

  • 19 years ago

    ill add sea thunder .mine looks horrible already.

  • 19 years ago

    ademink I'm surprised at your Korean Snow. Mine is a very thick leaved hosta and slugs ignore it.

    St. Elmo's Fire - gorgeous but slug bait so it lives in pot, not too far from Cherry Berry in it's pot because of slugs and Pandora's Box, just because it is so small. Island Charm finally committed plantacide this year. It has been trying for years. My Sea Thunder looks good until August, then it melts away. My Super Nova already is loaded with the rusty marks. I wish my husband didn't love it. Cadillac, absolutely gorgeous until it blooms and then it goes downhill so fast I wonder why I keep it. This year it is blooming six weeks early so I get to watch it be ugly for many months. It is planted right in front of my deck, so the looking is up close and personal.

  • 19 years ago

    Color Glory & Frances Williams - for the "burn"
    - am I'm not too happy with my Aurora Borealis for the same reason

    Cherry Berry - slugbait
    Korean Snow - not as pretty as when I bought it last year

    Morning Light, Tattoo, & Pandora's Box are doing fine here.

    Char

  • 19 years ago

    Don't forget the always impossible "Great Expectations." Grrrrrrrr. I have never been able to grow one beyond one year, though I have problems with no other hostas. Go figure. I don't think I'm the only one with this problem.

    Lainey

  • 19 years ago

    Lakeside Kaliedoscope burns.
    I can't keep a Cherry Berry alive -- it's an annual with me.
    Although I keep buying it, (another annual), Elvis Lives actually doesn't.
    I've lost Wagon Gold repeatedly.
    Patriot and Minuteman are in their 2nd try.
    White Christmas either greens or burns, so exposure is tricky. It's also slug bait.

    Thses are the ones that weren't stressed by 1) me moving them repeatedly, 2) moles or voles.

  • 19 years ago

    SLOW POKES:
    Revolution,
    Pizzaz,
    Big Daddy,
    Blue Vision

    These died after the first year. (All but one came from the same seller.)
    Little White Lines,
    Aphrodite,
    Sugar Daddy,
    TuTu,
    Dancing in the Rain.

    Cherry Berry is good here.

  • 19 years ago

    For me,

    Cherry Berry was a bust, a small TC liner that never made it to, never mind through, the first winter in my garden.

    Morning Light unbearably slow, planted a couple of them 3 years ago, one left and it's managing to just hang on, but not by much, will have to relocate it; again.

    Revolution is a champ in my books (and garden), vigorous, on par in that regard with its close relative Minute Man

  • 19 years ago

    this is my color glory and it is about 3 years old. It gets about 4 to 5 hours of sun a day (morning) maybe a little more and planted in some of the worst soil in my yard. May not work for some, but a keeper in my yard.
    wild

    {{gwi:1021548}}

  • 19 years ago

    Great Expectations, Cats Eye, Cherry Berry. Pandoras Box and Tattoo do great in my yard. But for me Cherry Berry is slug bait and I can't keep GE or CE alive for anything.

  • 19 years ago

    A lot of the same ones keep popping up.
    Phil, Island Charm doesn't do well here either, I've lost that one twice now so won't try it again.
    True, Cherry Berry, Sea Thunder and some of the other thin leaved hostas are slug bait.
    My Dancing in the Rain was also a bust. I think there may be more than one strain of this hosta out there. I've seen some that were much stronger than the one I had.
    Wild that is the best pic of Color Glory I've seen so you must be doing everything right by it. This is my shameful looking Color Glory in front with the spring desiccation burn on it. Elatior is trying its best to hide Color Glory ;-)

  • 19 years ago

    Some varieties are poor performers almost universally, and many of those have been listed here, but for most there are some people who will have great success with them. Some varieties will do well in certain regions but not in others. Many varieties are quite slow to become established, but if they survive the first 2 years, will take off and grow well. Some varieties are known to revert after a few years. I generally try to avoid those varieties that have a bad reputation from growers in several different areas of the country, and especially those that have not done well for people I know to be excellent gardeners.

    Medusa, Cascades, Kinbotan, Eskimo Pie, Tattoo and Cat's Eyes are all known to be difficult. Masquerade, Revolution, and most streakers revert. Royal Tiara is a total dud for many, although it survives in my garden. Hart's Tongue is difficult to establish, but fine once it gets going. Uzu-No-Mai probably is the most difficult hosta to grow unless you live in the 2 or 3 counties in the Pacific Northwest where it will survive. Dorothy Benedict is a beautiful plant, but touchy about conditions and absolutely glacially slow to increase.

    Some varieties are very picky about growing conditions, and unless they are planted in optimum conditions, they will either remain small, or fade away and die. The best example of this I know of is Great Expectations, which also happens to be my favorite hosta. A great many people have lost this one, sometimes more than once. I have three very large mature plants, and they are the prettiest thing in the garden. It took some experimentation, but there are three things that GE absolutely must have to thrive. First, and most importantly, plant it shallowly. It's going to be a very large plant, so the natural inclination is to plant it deeply, but this will kill it faster than anything else. Plant it so shallowly you are convinced that it will tip over, and you've got it right. Secondly, it likes a lot of light. Dappled shade is ideal, but it will take several hours of direct sun, either morning or afternoon. Third, it likes a lot of water. If you give a GE all three of these things, you will increase your chances of growing it into an absolutely stunning plant.

    If you want to try any of the hostas that have the reputation of being difficult, be prepared to try different locations and growing methods, and possibly go through several plants before you discover what works for that variety in your location. When you do find out what works, please share the information with the rest of us!

  • 19 years ago

    The following hostas have been reported by many gardeners to be unusually slow or difficult to grow. Don

    DIFFICULT TO GROW HOSTAS

    ÂAbiqua HallucinationÂ
    ÂBanana SundaeÂ
    ÂBlessingsÂ
    ÂBlue DanubeÂ
    ÂBlue IceÂ
    ÂBlue JuneÂ
    ÂBlue MoonÂ
    ÂBlue ShadowsÂ
    ÂBold RufflesÂ
    ÂBorwick BeautyÂ
    ÂBrim CupÂ
    ÂCalypsoÂ
    ÂCascadesÂ
    ÂCatÂs EyeÂ
    ÂCelebrationÂ
    ÂCherry BerryÂ
    ÂCrispulaÂ
    ÂCrown JewelÂ
    ÂDeeÂs Golden JewelÂ
    ÂDorset BlueÂ
    ÂEskimo PieÂ
    ÂFlame StitchÂ
    ÂFire and IceÂ
    ÂFused VeinsÂ
    ÂGay FeatherÂ
    ÂGolden PlumÂ
    ÂGolden ScepterÂ
    ÂGreat ExpectationsÂ
    ÂGreenwoodÂ
    ÂHadspen SamphireÂ
    hypoleuca
    ÂInniswoodÂ
    ÂInnovationÂ
    ÂIsland CharmÂ
    ÂJack of DiamondsÂ
    ÂJelly BeanÂ
    ÂKinbotanÂ
    ÂLove PatÂ
    ÂLoyalistÂ
    ÂMedusaÂ
    ÂMidwest GoldÂ
    ÂMinutaÂ
    montana ÂEmma FosterÂ
    ÂMorning LightÂ
    ÂMountain SnowÂ
    ÂMr. Asami ImprovedÂ
    ÂNorthern LightsÂ
    ÂOpipara (ÂBill BrinkaÂ)
    ÂPandoraÂs BoxÂ
    ÂReversedÂ
    ÂRosedale BarneyÂ
    ÂRosedale GenevieveÂ
    ÂRosedale Tractor SeatÂ
    ÂRoyal TiaraÂ
    rupifraga
    ÂSea SapphireÂ
    ÂSea ThunderÂ
    ÂSeersuckerÂ
    ÂShadow WaltzÂ
    ÂSilver TiaraÂ
    ÂSnow CapÂ
    ÂSnowdriftÂ
    ÂSquigglesÂ
    ÂSweet JillÂ
    ÂTattooÂ
    ÂTokudama AureonebulosaÂ
    ÂUzu-no-MaiÂ
    ÂWhite ChristmasÂ
    ÂZager TokudamaÂ

  • 18 years ago

    Thought I would bump this up. Goes well with the what to avoid question.

  • 18 years ago

    whew! although losing plants is never good, i am happy to see that just about all the ones ive lost over the last few years are listed here-plus ice age trail and hope. mabye if is stopped buying tc's and splurge id have better success rate. better yet..i may just switch to the new heucheras to fill the gaps- never lost a single one and the slugs leave em alone here.

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