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June: Just how much sun?

15 years ago

How much sun will June actually take? I'm thinking about leaving the three I have planted at the front of the bed that is now in full afternoon sun thanks to the tree butchers.

I'm going to replace the other hostas with plantaginea, I have a big clump I can dig and divide. Should be pretty in front of my big oak leaf hydrangea with plumbago (leadwort) ground cover and they should be fine with the sun.

But I would like to keep the June in front, and maybe add a couple more if they will take the sun.

Comments (9)

  • 15 years ago

    it came from a blue plant ... it is covered in the wax that makes blue hosta blue .. and that is part of why it has such unique coloration ...

    i doubt you will like it in full sun ... as compared to a well grown version ...

    by best advice .. move two .. split one if you insist on groups of three ...

    and leave one there.. and report back this time next season.. and tell me/us.. whether you are moving the others back ... or moving the one left out of the sun ...

    regardless.. you can NOT have enough june ..

    ken

  • 15 years ago

    I know June is a Halcyon sport, Ken. And I agree, you cannot have too many. Thanks for the input.

    Maybe I'll just leave the three I have where they are and put some Gold Standard in front of the plantagineas. I have a couple old clumps of them that I can divide: those three Junes are only one season old and not big enough to divide yet. If they do ok I might get three or four more to edge that bed.

    Still would like to hear from anyone who has grown June in about 4 hours afternoon sun????

  • 15 years ago

    sounding a bit defensive there ...

    i will restate what i MEANT to say

    i have grown it in 4 and more hours of sun.. and with its glaucous coating.. it will suffer in the looks department ... losing some of its glaucous looks..

    and the center will burn ..

    and the edges will burn ...

    would you grow halcyon in the sun?? it has the same genetic base .. it can not grow differently ...

    all that said .. give it a go .. since you have extras ...

    regardless, they surely arent going to die ... and will probably grow more vigorously, crown and root wise in the next season .. no matter what they end up looking like ...

    ken

  • 15 years ago

    Sorry, not meaning to sound defensive. ;) I guess you just bring out the best in me, Ken, lol!

    No of course not, I wouldn't grow Halcyon in the sun.

    These three did get quite a bit of filtered afternoon sun
    and the heat and drought this summer hasn't fazed them a bit.

    But Halcyon itself in the shade lost all of its blue from heat stress this year, in spite of all the water it got.

    That's why I'm wondering if June can take it or not.

  • 15 years ago

    One of my three Junes gets sun from 9:00 - 1:30. It looks more like Remember Me with the lighter yellow center; in fact, this spring guests who came to my garden couldn't believe that June and Remember Me (on the other side of the path in more shade) were different plants. June did not burn and none of my hosta get very much more than rainfall because it's so hard for me to water. Here's a pic from earlier. Nance

  • 15 years ago

    i didnt think so.. but i had to check ... your best hey???... lol

    halcyon in shade with drip irrigation.. looks fine..

    halcyon in shade with overhead watering.. look horrible ...

    or substitute june in the above equation ...

    the 6 weeks near 100 here this summer.. frankly.. not much got away unscathed ...

    ken

  • 15 years ago

    The bed my Halcyon is in, is on soaker hoses, root zone watering. The blue still melted off this year, first time ever. The plant still looks pretty good, just not blue.

    The Junes get root zone watering too.

    Beautiful, Nance. Thank you for sharing.

    Got three nice First Frost today for 1/2 price, but they aren't going in the sunny bed. That's another one it's hard to have too many of. A Halcyon sport again.

  • 15 years ago

    I have a patch of Halcyon growing in the afternoon sun without a lot of watering, it is a dense mass, and their leaves have turned to yellowish green. They are nearly finished blooming now. Halcyons in the shade are still blue. My June is perfect in the shade.
    My take is that all hostas are doing better with only a little sun, it is also much less hassle for the gardener, if possible.
    mosswitch, you probably need some shade structures. Good luck!
    Bernd

  • 15 years ago

    Upon doing some reading in Diana Grenfell's latest hosta book, I see that she says June needs sun to get good color. I do realize she is in England, which is a much gentler climate than the American mid-south, but I think maybe I'll leave them where they are and see what happens.

    I do have a June in the shade, also, and it is doing fine.

    Bernd, I have lots of shade structures....they're called trees, a woods full of them. I just needed the electric company not to screw with my nice (formerly) shady bed in my front yard. The Joplin tornado is to blame for that. All branches now have to be 15' away from any power lines except for those that are below them. So they took out all the shade on the west side, leaving that shade garden in full afternoon sun.

    My originial question, and still is, is anybody (besides Ken, we already heard from him, thank you Ken) growing June in a lot of sun and how are they doing?

    That bed has now all been moved, and plantagineas, including that stubborn Aphrodite that aborts its buds and, as Diana Grenfell says, "Only blooms well in a hot climate. Full sun." will go there.