Question about scapes.

14 years ago

In my post "Bobbi's noid BHN 9-11----" I show a photo of BHN 9, which no one has suggested an ID for. If you go there and look you will see a very tall scape with what I would normally think should be a bract but resembles a normal leaf in both size and variegation. Going through the many other photos I have yet to ID I came across another hosta that, while smaller looks like BHN 9. It also has a very tall scape and similar "leaf" on the scape.

I am going to treat both as the same variety once I manage to ID them. But here are my questions. Are they actually still bracts in spite of their size and resemblence to a young leaf? Eiter bract or leaf, what is the condition called since it is not common to all hostas?

And finally, wouldn't the trait be valuable in identifying NOID BHN 9? Donr, are you working on a list of hostas with the large leaf or bract on the scape? :)

Les

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ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5
14 years ago
man o live.. these things are getting more and more cyptic as you go on ..

i think you are a russian spy.. sending coded messages ..

if the pics are in the other posts.. why cant you use the same code.. and put them here.. or at least link us to the other post.. crimminey man.. i am lazy ...

there is a term that escapes me.. for leaves on stems.. it can be genetic.. or an anomaly ...

i THINK. a bract.. is only when there is an associated flower at that point.. you seem to suggest its just a leaf ... but i dont know.. because i am too lazy

ken
bkay2000
14 years ago
Les, my Striptease did that this year. It's new, so I don't know if it's usual or an anomoly.

bkay
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Steve Massachusetts
14 years ago
Are you talking about a fasciated scape? If so those are pretty common.

Steve
ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5
14 years ago
kgm7914-xoy-74-kgd-666 ...

got it??

ken
hostaLes
Original Author
14 years ago

Because I'mlazier than you ken! :>

Steve -I have to look up what you'd said but had to answer ken first. I'll be back with the photo of the second one. Would seem odd if an anomoly only occured on two hostas of the same variety.

Les

I've even marked it for you.

Les
bkay2000
14 years ago
No, it's just a leaf on the scape. It's like a full size or almost full size leaf on the scape. (Photobucket is on the blink right now, but, if needed, I'll post a photo.)

bkay
hostaLes
Original Author
14 years ago

Here is a closer view of the the normal leaf on petiole. It would seem to be typical for that hosta.

This does look like the same hosta as in the first picture doesn't it?

Please bear with me; these are not MY hostas. They are Bobbi's ken, which is why I use BHN to keep them straight since she has no idea what she has. So until I have a name, they have to have a number. I am going to post these photos in my other NOID posting to see if I can ger them an ID'd. This thread is still about the "leaf" on a scape. The closest I have had is on my Albomarginatas that I have in drifts to accent my specimen plantings in my gardens. On the Albos every scape has a large bract, leaf shaped bract. Do on Wlbod I've always assumed it to be a bract with a long distance between it and the raceme. Also, on the Albos the bract seems to curl around the scape. On these in this thread there is a distinct stem coming off of the scape.

Les
hostaLes
Original Author
14 years ago
BHN is the acronym for Bobbi's Hosta Number. There, now the secret encryption, or "ciptric" coding as ken refers to it, is exposed for everyone to see. Now I am going to have to turn my KGB card in or get my Burn Notice. Thanks ken. Oh well, it was a good side-job while it lasted! lol

I did get your "kgm7914-xoy-74-kgd-666..." loud and clear but you are a lousy typist ken, you forget the fourth 6, you devil you! Or is that what "..." implied?

Les