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Flowers for Spring!

17 years ago

Hey Everyone~

Im busily going through catalogs and here are the flowers I am planning to grow from seed this season. IÂd love any ideas yÂall have to share.

Amaranthus  ÂAutumn Palatte (havenÂt grown here)

Angelonia  (this is something IÂd like to try, butÂhas anyone grown it enough to know how it performs here?)

Black-eyed Susan vine (thunbergia) Â (great vine, but the standard gold out performed the more interesting multi-colored coral varieties out there the last time I started them)

Butterfly Weed  I planted this one year when I lived here before and had a massive Monarch influxÂa really seasoned OK gardener saw all of them and said sheÂd been trying to get the same thing to happen for years, LOL

Calendula ÂFlashback  OK, I have never grown these out here, but in Oregon they are amazingÂanyone know how they perform here?

Cleome ÂViolet Queen  another great performer most of the summer; great as a background plant since the base gets a little bare as the summer progresses.

Cosmos sulphureus  ÂBright lights, ÂPolidor (the only cosmos that didnÂt get powdery mildew by mid-summer)

Echinacea  ÂWhite Swan (fabulous!), ÂMagnus, and ÂBravado (never tried it before)

Gaillardia  ÂGoblin, ÂAristataÂ

Gazania  ÂDaybreak ( a trial for meÂ)

Geranium  ÂOrange Appeal, ÂInspire, ÂHorizon, ÂOrbit (this will be my first year of growing geraniums from seedÂany suggestions? I generally only grow them for containersÂ)

Gomphrena  ÂStrawberry Fields (hard to get it to germinate without a heat mat, but they did really well for me here before)

Heliotrope  especially mini marine (vigorous, beautiful, and what a wonderful smell!)

Hyacynth Bean Vine (prolific climber the last time I lived here, and really beautiful does anyone know if it is edible or not? I was thinking of planting it on the fence that borders the dog yard, but I want to plant things that are edible, or at least completely harmlessÂ)

Impatiens for shade areas

Larkspur  Favorite varieties anyone? I was thinking about Âcannes mix from Park seedsÂ

Millet ÂFoxtail White Wonder (Seeds of Change)  I know itÂs not a flower, but itÂs an incredible ornamental, and IÂve even had great luck with it in potsÂ

Nemesia

Nicotiana, sylvestris and langsdorfii, also Âtinkerbell (sylvestris has done really well for me, but this will be my first year for langsdorfii)

Petunia  ÂFlambe Salmon, ÂAladdin Nautical Mix (One of the only Petunias that didnÂt look horrible after hail storms when I lived here before), ÂDolcissima Flambe and ÂMerlin Blue MornÂ

Rudbeckia  ÂCherry Brandy, ÂGreen Eyes, ÂChim Chiminee, ÂCappuccino, ÂPrairie Sun, ÂIndian SummerÂ

Salvia ÂVictoria,Â

Sages: Jerusalem Sage, Silver Downy Leaf Sage

Sunflowers

Verbascum ÂSouthern Charm  expensive seeds (Burpee or Park), but once they are going, theyÂre wonderful!

Verbena bonariensis (any tricks to propagation; IÂve grown this before, but never seeded it and IÂve read itÂs trickyÂ), also Verbena ÂImagination (Funny story: we brought some pots of plants with us from Oregon when we moved two summers agoÂÂImagination self-seeded itself and started growing again in the pot last summerÂit filled up a 3 pot on its own and bloomed all summer long!)

Vinca (of courseÂ)

Zinnia  Profusion (last summer I grew Apricot, and boy did it ever perform fantastically  it bloomed all summer long and each plant took up a 3 circumference  this year IÂm adding some new colors including Âcoral pink, Âdouble golden, Âdeep apricot, Âwhite, and Âknee-high whiteÂ); ÂWhirligig, ÂStar White (another vigorous plant all summer)

ThatÂs it for now, LOL! IÂd love to hear what flowers yÂall like growing here. IÂm a native Pacific-Northwesterner (Oregon, Willamette Valley and Portland area), and though IÂve flower gardened in Oklahoma the last time I lived here successfully (I moved here, moved back "home," only to find that this was really "home," so I moved back, LOL), IÂd like to try some things out here I grew there, but obviously the two climates are dramatically different, so if you see something that youÂre pretty sure wonÂt be happy here, please let me know!

Also, I was looking at Seeds of Change catalog at their Soil Blocker system (molds that you press soil so that you donÂt need pots); has anyone used this system? IÂm trying to not have to purchase a tone of plastic pots (6-packs and 4")Â

⺠Ada

Comments (8)

  • 17 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Ada, I use the soil blocker system and I like it. The first year I tried I couldn't get the blocks to stay together, but then I just started using Jiffy Mix right from the bag. I dump it in a plastic dishpan, add water (and it takes more than you would think) and then I press the block maker down into the soil mix until the blocks are full. It takes a little work, but once you get the moisture level adjusted, they work just fine. I have two sets, the very small one that has about 20 3/4 inch blocks and the the bigger one with four blocks. The big one is strong and works fine, the small one will come apart if you don't work it just right. However, I use it anyway, because I can plant one seed in each block and when it has germinated I move it to more soil. I don't have the attachment that makes the two blocks fit together, but that would be nice. I like the blocks because you can get so many in a small space while growing under lights. But it doesn't take long before I have to move up to a larger size container, like a large cup when I am growing veggies. Flowers might work better.

    I also have many, many, nursery pots so I have a choice. I have never been good with flowers, so this year I plan to wintersow and hope I become the flower queen. LOL

  • 17 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Thanks for the information Soonergrandmom! The soil blocking system looked like it would be great in theory...so it's good to hear that you've had good luck with it. I'm trying to be as waste-less as possible, LOL, and even though I reuse my pots every year (I take a huge clean garbage can each spring and fill it with water and a little bleach to disinfect them), the last time I moved I got rid of everything I'd stored, so I either have to replace the pots or figure something else out. I'm trying to use as few petroleum products as possible, and I'd rather invest in something that will last. Actually, I saw a 4" block on SOC, but it's pretty spendy. Still, if the blocks work out well, it would probably pay for itself eventually. I guess the biggest thing will be to get my sowing dates just right so nothing gets too large before it's time to transplant outside. I also like the thought of not having transplant shock with flowers (I normally would sow into a flat in rows, then transplant when they have their first true leaves into a 6-pack or something) - this way I won't have to disturb as many roots, at least in theory, LOL. We'll see!!

    Good luck becoming the flower queen! I know flowers don't offer the same gifts veggies do, but they're so beautiful and offer support to so many beneficial insects and birds. :-)

  • 17 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Ada,

    I either do grow or have grown many of the flowers you listed, so here's a few comments.

    Amaranthus--I grow many kinds and they all sprout easily and grow well, even in areas where the yucky, heavy, red clay soil has not been improved at all. Most years my various amaranths reseed.

    Angelonia--performs very well even during the hottest parts of the summer.

    Black-eyed Susan Vine--grows well, self sows abundantly, and I've had the same results you have with the various colors.

    Butterfly Weed--grows very well here and truly is a butterfly magnet. We have them growing wild in the fencelines here near us. I have grown them in my cottage border too.

    Calendula 'Flashback' and the other calendulas I've grown have done very well. They are supposed to be more of a cool-season flower, but some years they have made it through most or all the summer as long as I have been able to keep them well-watered.

    Cleome 'Violet Qween'--grows fine here although it doesn't seem to reseed as prolifically as Rose Queen. I just grow taller flowers in front of it to hide the naked stalks, esp. as the summer goes on. This year, mine continued blooming in late November or early December because they were in a spot near the house where they got a little water every occasionally and sunlight/heat from a southward-facing wall.

    Cosmos--I've grown 15 or 20 kinds of cosmos here in southern OK and they've all grown more or less equally well. I haven't had any powdery mildew problems with them here, but then I don't have much rain or high humidity most years.

    Echinacea--grows well but not necessarily long-lived in my garden. Any individual plant may last 3, 4 or 5 years, but not forever. It tends to be our occasionally very rainy year that gets them, but then they are always planted in fairly unimproved clay soil. (I save the heroic amounts of soil prep for the veggies.)

    Gaillardia--At our house, it does best if I plant it in well-drained, compost-improved, sandier loam and not in the heavier clay. We have gaillardia here by the acre in our part of Love County, so I don't plant it much. It does, however, come up here and there from wind-scattered seed.

    Gazanias--Quick and easy from seed and tolerates really hot weather.

    Geranium--I grew them the first couple of years we lived here, but they really don't like our hot, dry summers so I haven't grown them since about 2001 or 2002. They always look great until late June or early July and then the struggle with the heat begins.

    Gomphrena--I've grown several kinds here, including Strawberry Fields, Purple Buddy and QIS Mix. My Strawberry Fields self-sows and comes up in the gravel driveway down by the road, about 200' from where I originally planted it. Some of the darker purple ones reseed also, but the paler lavender or lilac-colored ones have not reseeded. I get better germination when I presoak the seed for 24 hours before planting it.

    Heliotrope--I love the smell, but it does love our dry heat, so I don't grow it here.

    Hyacinth Bean Vine--I've grown these every year since we moved here, and for quite a few years before that. I love them, and they are edible, although I don't think they are as tasty as many other agricultural beans. Mine have reseeded for the last 4 or 5 years, so I don't bother saving seed to replant any more. I probably get more compliments on these plants than any other single plant I grow.

    Impatiens--Grew lots of them in Fort Worth, but only grew them the first year here. The wildlife ate them all to the ground, and I haven't grown them since.

    Larkspur--I've grown Imperial Mix for years and they reseed every year. Haven't tried the one from Park's that you mentioned. I have them in several places around the yard.

    Millet--I've from the Foxtail, the purple ornamental ones, and the common ones that sprout from henscratch that the hens and wildbirds miss. All grow equally well. If you have a problem with stink bugs in the veggie garden, plant millet close to, but outside the garden, as a trap crop and kill the stinkbugs when they flock to the millet. That way, you won't have to spray your veggie crops with anything.

    Nemesia--I don't grow it here because it doesn't handle July and August well.

    Nicotiana--I've grown every one of them that you can find seed for, and they grow great here. Langsdorfii likes a little more moisture and afternoon shade than sylvestris. Some nicotines reseed for me, and some don't. I've had them come up in the middle of pastures from seed blown from the garden, and they were some of the best-looking ones ever, even though they got no supplemental water and no care.

    Petunia--I'm just about done with all the standard petunias. They just struggle too much in July and August. There's two exceptions: Mexican Petunia and 'Laura Bush Pink' wild petunia and 'Laura Bush Purple' wild petunia. As far as I know, the Laura Bush wild petunias are only available as seed from Wildseed Farms in Texas. I raise mine from seed every year. They grow just fine in the heat, although they do best if you cut them back hard once or twice during the summer and let them regrow and reflower. Mine were in bloom from April through December, and even reseeded, both in containers and in the ground. I grow them in well-amended clay soil in full sub. I've grown plenty of other petunias from seed over the years, and had some of the Wave petunias in handing baskets on my wraparound porch for several years, but they just don't like our July/August heat in Love County. (Most years it is a fairly dry heat.)

    Rudbeckias grow better for me if I put them in the one bank of sandy soil that runs across our property. They've never done as well in the heavier clay soil I have on most of the place. We have native ones that grow just fine here, but a lot of the cultivated ones don't do quite as well.

    Salvia 'Victoria' grows very well. I haven't planted any in years, but the ones I planted in about 2001 or 2002 reseed every year and do just fine. Very long-blooming here. Bloomed into late Nov. or early Dec. this year in spite of some pretty cold nights (down in the teens).

    Sages--Most of the sages don't do well for me unless I put them in raised beds in very well-amended, well-drained soil. The exception is Texas Hummingbird Sage which grows very well despite the heat, gets huge, is a butterfly and bee magent, and reseeds everywhere.

    Sunflowers--I grow gazillions of them, and like to color-code them to the season--growing the paler yellow, peach and lime ones for late spring blooms, the golden yellows and orange (Soraya) for summer blooms, and the red, gold and orange (and bi-colors) for the fall. If you have a lot of sunflowers, you'll have to watch for the black-and-orange caterpillars that like to devour their foliage.

    Verbascum 'Southern Charm'--only did so-so here. It may not like my heavy clay or my hot summers, but my grandmother always loved verbascum and grew it in her sandier, more well-drained soil in Texas.

    Verbena bonariensis--a longtime favorite and it reseeds all over the place here most years. Some years I have to pull up hundreds of them because they come up as thick as grass if I didn't deadhead early enough the previous summer. These even come up in the middle of the pastures.
    I have the best luck surface sowing it outdoors in a covered container (winter sowing). Since it reseeds so prolifically, I've only grown it from seed twice here, and I wouldn't have planted it at all the second year if I'd realized how much it would reseed from the first year's plants.

    Vinca--I grow it every now and then, but not most years.
    It has a lot of disease issues here so I usually only grow it every 2nd or 3rd year. I grew it more when I lived in Texas and had better soil. It is really easy from seed though.

    Zinnia--I've grown all kinds of zinnias and they are my favorite flower. I like 'em in all sizes, shapes, and colors and they attract billions of butterflies. I've grown the entire 'Profusion' series ever since they first came out, and this year I'm going to add the Knee-High ones and the new double ones. They grow insanely well here and the only trouble they have is the occasional bout of powdery mildew in wetter years. I've never met )or grown) a zinnia I didn't like.

    I grow a large cottage border around the perimeter of my veggie garden and in various other areas around the yard. Because we have a large property, I only grow plants that are pretty tough and fuss-free. If they need pampering and lots of special care, I don't bother with them. Most of what I grow reseeds, although every few years I bring in new batches of seed (maybe the same flowers I already have, but in different colors, for example) to shake things up a little.

    It sounds like you have a lot of fun flower-growing planned for this year.

    Dawn

  • 17 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Dawn,

    Thanks for the additional info. I live in Shawnee, and we have sort of an interesting micro-climate here in town that only extends a few square miles - summers are a little wetter and slightly milder here than even a few miles away which seems to make a remarkable difference with some plants. The humidity lets me grow things like Heliotrope, but I've had trouble with lots of Cosmos and Zinnias, two of my favorites!

    I have another question - believe it or not, I've never grown sunflowers! What's your favorite seed starting method? Do you just direct sow, or start indoors? I absolutely love them, and they aren't exactly prolific in the Pacific NW, it's too wet and cold, LOL!

    I'm looking forward to my flower garden as much as the veggies this year. Last summer was our first year of gardening here at the new house, and we only had time to put in two large, deep beds in front of the house. We crammed them with all sorts of annuals and perennials in a loose, English cottage fashion and they attracted so many butterflies that as you walked up the front steps it was like walking through a butterfly fairyland!

    Ada

  • 17 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Ada,

    Your microclimate sounds lovely! Mine is the opposite....hot and dry.

    Our first summer here, the high temperatures in early August went into the 107-113 range for a couple of weeks and everything I had planted just went rapidly downhill.....didn't necessarily die, but the flowers weren't as perky or happy even after cooler temps only in the upper 90s and lower 100s returned. I thought to myself that surely that one summer was "the worst ever" and we'd never have summer high temps like that again. Was I right? No. While it certainly doesn't get that hot every year, we have had similar hot spells several times since then, most notably in 2006, and any flower, like heliotrope, that is "marginal" in our summer heat just can't take that kind of hot spell. So, I just won't plant anything that struggles in the heat.

    Sunflowers are the easiest thing in the world. You can direct sow them or you can start them in peat pots or paper cups or whatever. They sprout in just a few days, and if you want to presoak them for a few hours before planting them, that tends to make them sprout more quicly.

    The only "problem" with starting the sunflower seeds inside is that they are (as their name implies) true sun lovers and they love, love, love bright light. So, I wouldn't start them inside unless I had a light shelf because a sunny window won't give them the instense sunlight they crave and they'll get leggy very quickly.

    I have sunflowers all over the dog yard and surrounding pastures and they weren't here when we bought the land, so I assume either wind-blown seed or perhaps seed carried off from the seed heads by birds or small animals have spread them around.

    If you have a deer problem, you may have trouble protecting the sunflowers from the deer.....and those rascals will eat the flowers before they even open. They'll also eat every leaf, and sometimes the stalks as well. I only grow sunflowers nowadays inside the veggie garden's 7' tall fence to protect them from the deer. There are two other critters that love sunflowers....in different ways.

    White grubs: I don't know what kind of white grubs they were, but our first spring here (before we had put up the garden fence), something laid white grubs in the soil underneath every single sunflower I had. At the time, the sunflowers were a couple of feet tall. Then, along came the skunks and armadillos and, in one night, they dug up several dozen sunflowers to get at those white grubs. Although they dug up many other plants as well, they seemed to do the most damage to the sunflowers. We discovered the carnage on Mother's Day morning and spent our first couple of hours of the day trying to put plants back into the ground, pat down the soil firmly, and water. We were able to save some of the veggies, but not the sunflowers. To this day, we refer to that as the "Mother's Day Garden Massacre". I put down Milky Spore Powder for grub control that summer, and we put up a 3' tall chicken wire fence around the garden and all the flower beds.

    Bordered Patch Caterpillars: The other problem is the little black-and-orange caterpillars that are the larval form of the bordered patch butterfly. Although I garden for the butterflies in general, I pick those black-and-orange cats off my cultivated sunflowers and move them to wild sunflowers as far away as I can from "my" sunflowers. If you leave them on your plants, they will eat literally every leaf off the plant, or at least they do in my garden. I know that I could spray the sunflower leaves (and no other plants) with Bt and it would kill the cats, but I just won't use Bt since I otherwise wish to attract as many butterflies as possible.

    Most years, our yard is completely and totally full of butterflies. However, last year's numbers were the lowest I've every seen although there was a little improvement late in the season. If our current drought hangs on and deepens, I don't know if I'll see improvements in the butterfly numbers or not. I always had butterflies in Fort Worth. Here in southern OK, though, I've always had butterflies, butterflies, butterflies and moths. Having them around is one of the great joys of gardening.

    I plant moongarden plants (night bloomers) every year for the moths, although most reseed on their own too. We had a few moths in Texas, but not in the numbers we have them here. The moon garden plants attract a ton of different kinds of sphinx moths. And, although I remember seeing Luna Moths when I was a child, I hadn't seen any in decades until we moved here. The 'window of opportunity' to see the Luna Moths is very narrow--maybe a two or three week timeframe during which they are mating--and I treasure each one I see.

    To me, all the little wildlife--birds, butterflies, moths, dragonflies and damselflies, bats, lizards, frogs, toads, etc.--are a part of gardening too, because if you grow plants that they like, and if you avoid pesticides that will kill their food supply (and them too), they'll reward you with their presence, and I love that.

    Dawn

  • 17 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Dawn,

    I love the idea of moongarden plants - I have never really thought about it before. What do you plant?

    I completely agree about all the wildlife - they are as wonderful to me as the garden itself. I try never to use any sort of chemicals, even though it's tempting sometimes especially when we are trying to clear a new area for more garden space. We amend our soil like crazy and, in general most plants are healthy enough that they fight off the bugs themselves. I actually can't remember the last time I've had to spray even an organic treatment...usually the infestation is localized to one plant and it gets pulled if it doesn't snap out of it. Then again, I haven't grown many vegetables, so that may be another story entirely. Yet, we're committed to avoiding pesticides and the like... I've spent the last year doing tons of research on ecological and environmental ethics, including the latest science, etc., and we simply can't afford the abundance of chemicals that get used! On a personal level, the butterflies, bees, birds, etc., are more than enough of a reward for not using harmful chemicals.

    I think sunflowers in the dog area is a great idea. We live in a 1920's house situated on 4 lots, so it's a nice big yard shared by dreams of future garden beds and dogs! This neighborhood must have a sign that says "Great Place to Dump Your Dog" because we've adopted two in the past 4 months...and we rescued another one in town last Spring, plus 4 cats..., LOL! Needless to say, the dog yard needs a little beautification! I was thinking of planting sunflowers against the fence, and also growing malabar spinach (I love the look of the vine and its flowers, and it's great it's edible), hyacinth bean vine, and scarlet runner bean along the fence.

    I feel grateful for our microclimate here - it gets hot in the summer, but last year I don't think it broke 104 and most of the time it was in the upper 90's. In fact, I can remember thinking that our neighborhood was slightly cooler than even a mile away, and we were humid enough without being too sticky. We'll see what this year holds. I know many folks think of Oregon as a sort of Shangri la, but it's really a bummer for gardening even if it has a great reputation - most years, at least in recent years, it rains from October through the end of June, the ground is too cold and wet to plant much of anything until mid-June, and there's virtually no fall garden to speak of. Portland is known as the "city of roses" but I've great luck with roses here as long as you stay away from the finicky hybrid teas (which I'm not all that fond of anyway, with a few exceptions...I'm more a fan of heirlooms and their modern cousins). I know we are deeply in need of rain here, but Oregon is so swamp-like and grey there is definitely such a thing as too much of it, LOL! It's not much fun gardening somewhere that you don't want to go outside most of the year because it's too wet and cold, and the summers are almost always complete droughts. :-(

    There are a few things I grew in OR that I am wondering about for our climate... Do you grow poppies? They go crazy there, but I'm wondering if it's too hot here? Also, what about sweet peas? They grow wild in OR, and I can remember as a girl going out with my parents to pick them in the fields or on the side of the roads, and then wrapping them around garbage cans to make wreaths, LOL.

    One more question... When I lived here before I purchased pansies from a grower who called them "Oregon Giants;" they were amazing in their performance with huge heads in shades of blue, lavender, with sort of a burnt orange center. I can't locate the seeds anywhere and I'm wondering if she meant to say "Swiss Giants"? Any ideas?

    Thanks for all the information on sunflowers. I am thinking of trying the soil block method this year to save on purchasing plastic pots...we'll see how that goes, but perhaps the large blocks would work for sunflowers. I am setting up a rack with lights in our basement, so light shouldn't be a problem.

    Ada

  • 17 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Ada,

    In the moongarden, I group plants that mostly have white flowers and sometimes a few that are pale yellow or pale pink. Many of them bloom at night but some also bloom during part or most of the day. I also put flowers and herbs with whitish or grayish foliage like Dusty Miller and some sages in the Moongarden. In many cases, the white flowers are fragrant, which is important, because their sweet scent helps attract the night-flying moths. The plants in my moongarden vary a little from year to year, depending on what self-sowed itself the best the previous year, but usually include some or all of the following:

    Cleome "White Queen"
    Cosmos "Psyche White"
    Four O'Clock "Alba", "Custard and Cream",
    Moonflower Vine (Ipomoea alba)
    Morning Glory "Pearly Gates"
    Evening-Scented Stock
    Sweet Alyssum
    Jasmine-Scented Tobacco (Nicotiana alata)
    Woodland Tobacco (Nicotiana sylvestris)
    Sunset Hibiscus (Abelmoschus manihot)
    Brugmansia "Cassie's Curls"
    Brugmansia "Lemon Twist"
    Brugmansia "Ecuador Pink"
    Datura "Ballerina Yellow"
    Datura meteloides "Evening Fragrance"
    Night Plox 'Midnight Candy'
    Mignonette 'Machet' (Reseda odorata)--best planted in an out of the way spot....smells great but looks weedy and wild
    Pink Evening Primrose (reseeds and very invasive, so be really, really sure you want it) After having this one forever, last summer's drought appears to have killed off most of it. It will be interesting to see if it sprouts this year.
    Nasturtium "Milkmaid"
    Common white yarrow (native in our yard)
    Common Queen Anne's Lace (native in our yard)
    White-flowered bulbs like Iris, Gladiola, Crinum Lily, Tuberose, and pale yellow flowered bulbs too, including daffodils.

    I also have a huge number of pink-flowered four o'clocks that have reseeded and spread under a large pecan tree and they draw moths by the dozens every night that they are blooming. Some of them are from "Teatime Rose" seeds I planted about 7 or 8 years ago, and others are the common ones with bright pink flowers. The only ones that don't reseed well for me are the "Broken Colors" four o'clocks.

    Black-eyed Susan Vine "Alba"
    White-flowered Hyacinth Bean
    Sweet Autumn Clematis (Clematis terniflora)
    Sunflower "Vanilla Ice"
    Sunflower "Moonshadow"
    Sunflower "Italian White"

    Most of the moongarden plants are fragrant too and that's a lovely bonus. I also usually have a few different white-flowered annuals every year, usually several kinds of zinnias, portulaca, gazanias (for the silvery foliage), salvias, etc.

    Night-blooming cereus will work if you keep it in a pot and carry it inside for the winter.

    One thing about moongarden plants is that sometimes if they are planted near a bright street light or yard light, the nightime light can mess up their internal mechanism that tells them when to bloom, but out here in the boonies, I don't have that problem.

    POPPIES: I have poppies every year and they do great here. I mostly have the old-fashioned red-flowered oriental poppies, but also grow the ruffled peony or carnation type which are beautiful but don't reseed as well for me as the oriental poppies do. Some years I sow seeds of California poppies and they grow well until the summer heat arrives. Most years the poppies bloom here in southern OK roughly from April through June if I keep them deadheaded. In a year when we have a hot, dry winter and a relatively early "last frost", they bloom in March. In a couple of the milder summers, I've kept them in bloom until July. I deadhead several times a week to keep them from going to seed too early, but stop deadheading when it is clear they are nearing the end of their bloom period and let the last ones reseed. They self sow all over the place, sometimes several hundred feet from where they were planted, but I like them, so that's OK.

    I don't grow Sweet Peas here in southern OK. I have done it, but we get so many hot days so early in the spring that they are short-lived. They'd probably do better for you since you're quite a bit further north.

    I haven't seen seed for "Oregon Giant" pansies, which I think also were sold as "Ellis' Oregon Giant" pansies, in many, many years. You might find seed for them via a seed saver who does trades or from a company that specializes in "antique" flowers. They may have been a selection of "Swiss Giants", or vice versa, because they both were offered in seed catalogs at the same time. Territorial Seed probably carried them at one point, but it seems they are more into vegetables nowadays and don't offer as many varieties of flowers as they once did. (That's true of almost every seed company, though, as we see more and more consolidation of seed wholesale companies with the big guys gobbling up virtually all the little huys.)

    And, about the sunflowers in the dog yard.....you may not know this, but my outdoor dogs are gardeners. In their dog yard, and on their dog yard fence, they grow a virtual forest of sunflowers (giving them extra shade in the hot summer months), gourds, winter squash, pumpkins and, sometimes, other vines. I intially planted gourds on the fence, wanting to grow some of my autumn decorations and it worked out really well.....too well. Now, when the dogs want to play (and this is in a yard full of dog toys too) with a gourd, they pull it off the plant and play with it. Some years, they harvest 80 percent of "their" gourds before they are hard and dry, and they chew them up and play with them. The rest of the gourds are "mine" for fall decorations, although I give the gourds, pumpkins, winter squash, etc. back to the dogs to play with after I've replaced autumn decorations with Christmas decorations.

    I do grow real pumpkins and winter squash in the garden for us too, but always have some on the dog fence, and they plant them every year themselves by tearing up the "fruit" and scattering seeds or burying the "fruit".

    Sometimes we have black-eyed susan vine, morning glory and hyacinth vine on the fence as well, depending on what reseeded and also depending on whether the plants survive the dogs digging. We have eight dogs....two old dogs who spend most of their time inside the house sleeping and six outside dogs, ranging in age from 3 to 7 years old. All of them were "throwaways" (or the puppies of a pregnant "throwaway") that were dumped in the country by misguided people who apparently think abandoned dogs and cats can survive on their own "in the country". Our cats are all rescuees too. So many animals are dumped in rural areas, and I'd say 98% meet a horrible death. Everyone who lives around us has more dogs and cats than they need or want and no one else can take in any more, and yet, people keep dumping them out here. It drives me nuts that people dump animals that way.

    Every morning, by the time I'm through feeding dogs, cats, chickens, guineas, deer and wild birds, I'm worn out before the day has really started. : ) I love all the animals but hate that they were abandoned in the country and left to fend for themselves, which is such a heartless thing. I will say that "rescued" dogs are very loyal and true blue. I have a couple of dogs who are so protective that they would, I think, kill anyone who tried to lay a hand on us. Living out in the boondocks, though, it is good to have that kind of protection. : )

    Dawn

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    Those are great ideas for the dog yard! I have one dog in particular who loves anything shaped like a ball, so she'd probably have a great time. Last year we didn't have enough time to get many beds established, so I actually grew some tomatoes in those clay flues (square with an open top and bottom), and wrapped the wire cage we made right around it. They took a bit more water than I suspect they normally would, but we set them right outside the dog yard and every time we let the dogs out one of them would go pick a tomato, LOL. I was a little concerned at first (it was an accidental "pick") since I didn't know how they would digest, but she was fine, so I guess it was okay.

    I used to think that dumping dogs was just a country problem, but it's bad here in town too. In fact, so many of our neighbors have dogs now because they were dumped. Like I said, we must have a sign up somewhere! When we took our second-to-last stray to the vet, she was sure he'd been thrown out of a moving vehicle since he had so many things out of alignment and many cracked ribs...just terrible. Fortunately, he's doing great now, but I know that most of them don't meet a happy ending. It's heartbreaking and incredibly frustrating that so many people treat animals as if they were mere objects and don't bother to think that we've domesticated them so they are no longer adapted to living out with other "wild" animals. I could go on and on! It's always heartening to hear other people who take the problem seriously and do what they can to help. I've had to pay for so many spay and neuter surgeries this year I should buy stock in the anesthetic, LOL!

    About pansies: I received my SSE catalog (awesome!), and it mentioned membership to Flower and Herb Exchange, so maybe that would be a way to find Oregon Giants...

    And, I'm glad to hear that poppies do well here, because I completely love them!

    Ada