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the most important variable for starting seeds

and this is about any seeds you start in the house.. not just hosta ...

IMHO .... sterilize everything... and avoid a multitude of problems.. like bugs.. fungus.. molds.. etc ...

sterilize all your plastics ... pots.. trays .. tools... growing stand ... with 10% bleach ... think hospital operating room ... you might not get to 100% sterile .. but if you get to 90% ... you will .. in my opinion avoid 99% of potential problems ....

sterilize you potting medium ... even if the bag alleges it was previously done ... link below to doing it in your oven or microwave ....

and if you use tags to keep track of names.. use plastic ... and bleach ...

and ... clean the wings off the seeds.. as it has been suggested that airborne pathogens can be on them .... i have a little tea strainer and just grind DRY seeds on it.. and the chafe all falls off.. you can NOT damage a viable seed.. and any damaged were bad to start with .... though i never tried running them over in the driveway .. lol .....

what is your opinion of the MOST IMPORTANT VARIABLE?

i am getting very frustrated with GW ... they will not forward replies to posts.. they blame comcast... comcast blames them... i am stuck in the middle ... if you ever wish a reply.. and i don't reply ... think that i missed the post.. rather than i am avoiding you for some paranoid reason ... try a direct email from my members page ...

have fun and good luck

ken

Here is a link that might be useful: medium sterilization

Comments (6)

  • 18 years ago

    This is a forum dedecated to the growing of hostas from seed. Its for beginners to seasoned veterans of this great winter hobby. Feel free to join in with questions and helpful advice.
    http://www.hostaseedling.com/viewforum.php?f=2

  • 18 years ago

    Jeff, thanks for the link. You know already I frequent there.....:-) There's alot of info for anyone, newbies or not.

    Ken, you nailed it right on the head about sterility. I do use bleach solution on all the flats, etc. Only thing I do different is if a soiless mix says it's sterile, I believe it...not because I am nieve, just lazy. Never had a big gnat or fungus problem here ever, anyway.

    My most important variable for starting(Hosta)seed:

    Make sure the soil mix in the flat is saturated fully before you plant the seeds. It takes way more water than you think it is going to, so I put in water and let it set awhile, stir it up, add more water.
    I do this because I use a heat mat to germinate the seeds, in the dark, with the plastic dome on the flat. Once the seed germinates, I put the flat under 24/7 lights and leave the dome on until the seedlings are on their second set of leaves and it's time to decide to up pot them. I never water the entire time between sowing the seeds and culling.
    If the soil you use is saturated first, there's no need.
    This is the way I have always done it, and it works.

  • 18 years ago

    Some know I was in the soil business for 15 years.

    There is NO sterile growing or starting media.

    Some are better than others, even far better.

    When you sterilize you've just created a nice fungus starter, can't really sterilize for that problem. Well you can kill what is there but fungus is everywhere airborne.

    See to air circulation and pay attention and treat and don't get frightened just attentive.

  • 18 years ago

    esther is correct.. perhaps an abuse of the english language..

    we do NOT want to sterilize the soil.. per se ...

    we want only to kill the bug eggs... bugs.. and pathogens..

    i suppose... technically that happens at 120 degrees [if i recall correctly .. and that is iffy .. lol] .. much prior to actually sterilizing the soil ....

    one pin prick in the bag.. can allow stuff in ... whether it was sterilized at the plant ... much can happen in between there and you seeds..

    ken

  • 18 years ago

    "whether it was sterilized at the plant"
    Ken

    Could not afford it, would be like buying surgical supplies!

    A temp above 120 degrees is needed more like 160 or above and the lower one goes the longer time at that temp is required. Finding a way to steam is very effective.

  • 18 years ago

    I like to pour hydrogen peroxide over my pots while preparing pots with soil. If pots are being reused I clean them up in the water with bleach. After I fill them I pour boiling water over soiless mix- usually I use pro mix. Running small fan next your set up is essential while dealing with growing seeds indoor.
    Keeping it clean and being attentive to what you doing- that helps me to avoid majority of problems.