I've seen this in quit a few gardens and it is beautiful. How old is the seedling and what kind of exposure do you have it in?

Fall color is typically excellent. Even small, containered plants at the nursery have colored up beautifully, although the leaf size is much smaller than those established in the ground. Make sure it is in lots of sun and don't be too kind :-) Most grapes thrive on benign neglect and this is one variety that doesn't even require much in the way of pruning, compared to edible grapes.

It always puts on a spectacular show for me as well - pinks, purples, reds, yellows and orange all at once, usually peaking around October 31.

I was wondering how this species would compare, in fall color, to Vitis californica 'Roger's Red' -- anybody happen to know? This one has always been my ultimate fave.

Here is a link that might be useful: Vitis californica 'Roger's Red'

Lots of grapes get good fall color - I'm especially fond of Vitis vinifera 'Purpurea'. IMO, the primary feature of Crimson Glory vine is that it goes through such a range of color and on such huge foliage - the effect is always dramatic.

I really want to grow this plant. Can anyone tell me how long it takes to get established? If I planted a one gallon now what could I expect in the way of size next fall? I heard that this vine does well with limited root space, anyone have experience with that?
Thanks.

This is a vine I would like to plant in 3 very large pots to climb my carport. East and south sun exposure. Pots would sit on rock and gravel sideyard between carport and neighbor's yard. Would they do well? What should I attach to the carport roof frame (whatever that beam-thing is called) for them to cling/attach/weave? They become heavy vines, don't they?

gardengal ~ thanks for that clarification, now I REALLY want to have a Crimson Glory, too! I've got a couple of the 'Purpurea' already and I love the year round color on that one.

Big leaves on a big vine that is a "glory" of color in the fall. Size is part of the point, the largeness of the plant and leaves producing a spectacle. A full-sized western redcedar (Thuja plicata) is about the right size to host one (and makes a complementary backdrop).

Used to be on the old lathhouses at the Washington Park Arboretum, Seattle, and I think growing up a tree (probably Thuja plicata!) out in the main collections - don't know if this last is still present, a bunch of great old climbers (vines) were ripped out under the apparently wrongheaded "care" of previous workers there.

David C. Lam Asian Garden, UBC, Vancouver is another place to see it going up a tree.

bboy .... methinks I'll look for something less hefty for my puny carport!

The aforementioned purpleleaf wine grape is comparatively small-growing.

If anyone has a good fall- colorful specimen, I'd sure like to get a pkt of seeds. I do have a few seedlings here, but the color intensity varies and not all will be show stoppers. BTW this is not a good container vine and it takes a lot of room. Foget 6 foot spacing in a trellis row. I've seen the shoots grow over 24 feet in one season from budbreak.

In my experience (contrary to some references) it's easily grown from hardwood cuttings as well (taken late fall right after the leaves drop off). Why not take cuttings of a superior plant?

Yes, I'd love to get cuttings of a good rich red fall color vine , if anyone would be willing to share. I have a lot of seedlings and they are just starting to turn color. Some may be awsome, but some look like they will go from green to dull tan w/o visiting the riotous reds and oranges. I also have a few Purpurea, but really like the leaf colors of Coignetiae better.
Purpurea is ok in a container though and more manageable.

Another cousin of the Vitis Coignetiae is V. Davidii, the spiny stemmed vitis. I cannot find a seed source anywhere, and the few nurseries that have it are out of state.
Does anybody on the list have it?
I'd be glad to trade a seedling of V. Coignetiae.

Valley Nursery in Poulsbo carried this last summer. I think I saw it at one other nursery too, though I can't remember where. Probably one of the wholesale nurseries in Oregon is producing it. I'd like one as well but I'm waiting for a cheaper one.

Thanks for the tip.
I'll contact them.
Know right where they are.

Boizeau

Help...not having too much luck locating a place to purchase this beautiful vine. I live in Northern California and am looking to plant about a 200ft area. Many thanks