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Hydrangea answer needed asap please!

I've got a double whammy of a situation here. My neighbor cut down some trees last year, leaving an unknown blue hydrangea of mine in too much sun. I finally dug it up to move it today.

First I dug a hole in what I thought would be the perfect spot in my shade garden, a small alcove surrounded by some 4-5 foot high boulders. This spot is just crying for a shrub there. Problem is, there are also several large rocks in the ground which I can't remove. The hole is only about 18 inches in diameter, surrounded by rock. Will my hydrangea survive here?

Second question: I often dig up my hostas every couple of years to remove tiny, reddish-colored roots that seemingly appear from nowhere and get tangled in with the hosta roots. When I dug up the hydrangea to move it, I was amazed at the root system (leading me to believe it will never make it in the spot I picked out for it above). Anyway, I saw lots of tiny red roots, so I assumed they were not the hydrangea roots but those other roots and I tried to disentangle them. But now I'm beginning to wonder if these are indeed the hydrangea's roots, as they seem connected. Do hydrangeas have such huge root systems? I grew this from a small cutting, and really have no experience with hydrangeas.

My hydrangea is sitting on top of the ground at the moment. I may have to pot it up - sigh, I spent all afternoon trying to whittle down my pot ghetto by planting, and here I am adding to it, lol. So what's the consensus? Is the root system indeed so big, and will it fit in that hole surrounded by rocks? It would look SO nice in that spot...

:)

Dee

Who today finally planted a spirea obtained from Sue at a plant swap 2 years ago in the hydrangea's old spot! I bet that thing was glad to get out of it's pot!

Comments (7)

  • 21 years ago

    Dee,
    No way full size hydrangea will be happy in 18" diameter hole. Even if you could fit it there right now, you simply will be caging it, restricting future growth and compromising the health of the plant in general. Also, if hole is shallow (you said there are rocks underneath) that is definitely not a right space for any, even dwarf hydrangea.
    If 'this spot is just crying for a shrub there' consider small(ish), up to 3' at maturity Rhododendron, Azalea or Pieris (BTW, they have nice variegated Pieris at HD right now).

    Red/orange roots has to be removed indefinitely.
    Hydrangeas main roots are brown(ish)-gray and feeder roots are white-gray. You may cut those red brush roots and remove them piece by piece if they are too tangled.

    Don't keep hydrangea out of the ground for long.
    If you can't plant it ASAP, wrap a rootball in some kind of cloth and water it TWICE a day + mist leaves daily.

  • 21 years ago

    Thanks George. I didn't think that the hydrangea (or much of anything large, for that matter) could survive in such a small hole. But you know what? I was so determined to have that stinking hydrangea there, lol, that I went back out with my pickaxe and pulled out 3 huge rocks (once I start I kinda get obsessed, lol!). Of course my DH, who got up at 3AM this morning to go fishing, wakes up from his nap and strolls outside just after I finish! So, I ended up with a huge hole and had to find soil to fill it in, lol!

    I did not, however, do any more detangling of the roots. Maybe I should dig it back up and finish the job? The hydrangea was thriving as it was until this summer with the drought and the added sun, so I guess the roots weren't that bad, but I hate to see that happen to a plant. Unfortunately, it seems to happen all too often in my yard. Roots everywhere - except where the rocks are!

    :)
    Dee

  • 21 years ago

    Good work, Dee! Isn't it great to move rocks? Gives you such a sense of accomplishment when those rocks are sitting above ground next to a newly planted shrub.

    I would not worry about those red roots, since they are no longer attached to whatever plant they belonged to. I'd just keep an eye around the hydrangea and see if something like spirea start popping up out of the soil. They could have been from something like a maple, many feet away from the shrub, in which case they'll just rot away harmlessly.

  • 21 years ago

    DTD, it does feel great to get those rocks out! Thank goodness I have some compost/soil mix leftover from a spring delivery, though, so I could fill the gaping hole I dug, lol.

    I hate those little roots. Like I said, they are everywhere in my yard, and no matter how I build my beds, even digging them, they re-appear and tangle in the roots of my perennials. In a couple of beds and around some individual shrubs, I have put in 12-inch deep pound-in edging - not to edge, necessarily, but to try to keep the roots out. But this gets expensive and isn't really the look I'm going for either, lol! Oh well, I'm sure within a year this hydrangea will be attacked by roots again anyway.

    Thanks for your help, guys!
    :)
    Dee

  • 21 years ago

    FWIW, the plants I have been transplanting, hostas and hydrangeas, are entangled with invasive vine roots (red). In this case, I feel like it is my big chance to get ahead of the vines from the "root cause". The only way I was able to get the roots off was to begin by washing them off with a hose and dipping and swirling the root ball in a bucket of water. The good news is that the plants are doing much better after transplant. I think stopping the strangulation gave them anti-transplant shock! The hydrangeas I transplanted had very long roots with a slightly orange tint to the brown coating on fleshy white roots. The nearly wire like red roots were the vines. These are able to take over the planet from small bits of roots.

    Congratulation on your rock harvest!

  • 21 years ago

    Dee, I'm tipping my hat to ya :)... Hubby harvested a nice crop yesterday in order to plant a 5' Ilex 'Dragon Lady' and he was still uttering unmentionables this morning as he crawled into the shower! haha Daniel Webster was right...we grow rocks the best in New England. I'm using my rocks for critter habitat since we got the Wildlife Refuge certificate. It's amazing how having that silly sign has made us so much more conscious of our actions around here. We're even looking at installing rain barrels next spring (assuming it EVER rains in CT again?). Anyway, congrats on your fall harvest...

  • 21 years ago

    Confounded, you use the same method I do - the hose and the bucket of water. This time, though, the vines didn't seem to want to come off the hydrangea roots the way they usually do, which is why I thought they just might BE the hydrangea roots, lol!

    Tricia, I feel your DH's pain, lol! I'm looking into getting rain barrels too. Wish I had done it LAST year! It might have helped a bit this year to have that extra water. I just may wait till I see rain again with my own eyes, because I'm beginning to think that it will never rain here again!

    :)
    Dee

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