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wooley aphids and fire ants

17 years ago

I don't read anything about these critters, and for the second year I have had a problem with wooley aphids. I called the Master Gardener and also wrote, and received a response that was less than what I expected. I should think that someone would try to give us more information.

Wooley aphids are part of the category of Asian Hackberry wooley aphids. Mine would be Oklahoma Sugar Maple wooley aphids. Wooley aphids are white, and they fly. They swarm around their tree and blacken the leaves and all the ground and leaves under the tree - like rose leaves. The black is mold from their dew.

A special type of lady bug follows these white aphids, and they become so prolific that they coat benches, chairs and pots. Great!! Big white wooley aphids that attack your neck and hair and go down the back of your shirt. These are followed by the good guys - lady bugs that also bite, and there is such a thing as too much of a good thing.

Now this year besides a huge supply of ants, I got a fire ant bite. Ants protect the aphids that create the dew. Lady bugs fight the aphids.

None of this surprises the Master Gardeners. This is nothing new. Many people have the wooley aphids, and you can spray them with water, chemicals, or oils. (How high does your hose go??? These are way up in the tree. All the leaves become blackened.) Also fire ants in Tulsa are nothing new too. What???? I have not been reading about fire ants.

I have never heard of this problem before last year, and the fact that they are back this year pleases me even less. I hope none of you have it, but if you do see some innocent looking aphids flying around, look for the ants, and put out baits or something before it gets too bad.

We will probably have the Sugar Maple taken out. All of this is far too close to our house.

I am in a rush this morning since I must get to work. I hope maybe I have helped someone, and I wonder if we have other numbers where we can get help besides the Master Gardeners. It seems like other states have a University site where there is a huge amount of inormation. I have not tried OSU, and have not looked for such a site, but these aphids for the second year have ruined the looks of so many roses, and have caused them to become infested with ants -- and lady bugs.

I would like to hear from someone here who also has had these critters, and wonder what you do. Also, I had a warning from a "forumer" on the Rose Forum that the fire ants can become very dangerous, and we need to know what emergency room is prepared to handle a bad reaction to the bite.

Sammy

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  • 17 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Hi Sammy,

    I don't have the wooley aphids here so can't help you there, or with the asian lady beetles that follow them.

    However, I have had to deal with fire ants since the early to mid-1980s, so I am pretty experienced in dealing with them.

    Fire ants do not pose much of a threat to the average person. Their stings hurt...they do burn like fire for a brief period. You get raised-up pustules at the site of each bite, but they don't especially itch or hurt and they go away after a few days.

    The people who have bad reactions to fire ants have those reactions because they are allergic to the fire ant bites. A fire ant allergy can express itself in several ways, and I am basing this on various people I know who have had severe reactions.

    In some people, a fire ant allergy causes huge hives and these hives hurt them much more than the typical little pustule hurts a non-allergic person. Whereas most people get the little pustules, some highly allergic people get big purplish swellings that are about the color of the skin of a purple plum and look like a marble underneath your skin. One of our son's childhood friends had this kind of reaction back in the years when they were in elementary school in the early 1990s. He had lots of other allergies and saw an allergist regularly, but I never could tell that his allergic reactions decreased in frequency or intensity.

    Other people have intense pain that doesn't fade quickly, itching, abnormal swelling that may include the whole leg or arm which was bitten, dizziness, heart palpitations, and even sometimes they have trouble breathing. In other words, some of them go into anaphylactic shock just like people do when they are severely allergic to bee stings. If getting bitten by fire ants causes this reaction in a person, they should seek medical treatment immediately.

    I keep liquid Benadryl on hand at all times because it begins working very quickly to counter the effects of an insect sting/bite that is causing a severe reaction. None of us in our family are strongly allergic to fire ants, but remember that allergic reactions tend to develop after repeated exposure so you can't assume just because you've never strongly reacted before that you won't react this time.

    Also, you can obtain quick relief from fire ant bites by mixing baking soda and water to form a paste and plastering that paste over each bite. That is what the Poison Control Center told me to do when Chris stepped in a fire ant mound when he was 13 months old and was outside at grandma and grandpa's house splashing in puddles after a big thunderstorm. It worked for him then--he had several dozen bites on him as did his grandpa who rescued him from the mound--and we've used it ever since. I also gave him liquid Benadryl at the direction of the Poison Control Center and, between the Benadryl and the baking soda paste, he didn't even get very many of those little pustules in comparison to how many ants we knocked off his little legs and feet.

    For fire ants in your vegetable and fruit growing areas, you can treat the ground with an organic fire ant killer that has spinosad as the active ingredient. I have used this kind of fire ant killer in my veggie garden for several years and it is pretty effective.

    In areas where you are not growing edible crops, there are several very effective fire ant products you can use that are chemically based. If you prefer to remain organic, I use one called "Come and Get It" (made by Fertilome) that is very effective, but it is hard to find. You may have to order it online if you don't have a full-line nursery near you that carries a lot of organic products. We also have used a chemical product (NOT near the house, veggie garden or fruit trees, but in areas further away from all of them) called "Over and Out" that was very effective and seemed to have a longer residual effect that any other product we'd tried.

    Based on my 25 years or so experience with fire ants, I'd say that the Texas Two Step Method is definitely the most effective way to control fire ants, to the extent that they can be controlled at all. You can read about the Texas Two-Step method below and you can do the organic version or the chemical version.

    Over the long term, improving your soil lessens the amount of fire ants you'll have. However, some years when their populations are heavy, I have just as many in the areas where the soil has been heavily improved as I do in poor soil.

    Here is a link that might be useful: Texas A&M Fire Ant Website

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