Barton, could you give me the link. It did not show up on the posting and I would really like to take a look. I am currently working on plans for my front yard which unfortunately faces west, how crazy am I gonna be trying to keep things alive in August. Anyway, forward the link I would love to take a look. thanks, steffie

Just a note. The Texas proven winners list should also be of interest for Oklahomans. Personally I've found their ornamental list to be more cutting edge then that of Oklahoma.

Thanks, will check out both listings. Just got back on line today. Hope yall have a HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!

OH YEAH------------BOOMER SOONER!

AND COME ON SPRING, I AM SO READY

Hmmmm. I'm not sure about the Ninebark. I always thought they were more suited to northern gardens than our sweltering Oklahoma sizzling gardens.

I have 'Golden Jubilee', and have had it for 3 years now. Foliage is lovely, but in the heat it really fades out. I'm trying some other agastaches this year to see if they will tolerate our weather better. I wouldn't recommend this one either.

I am finally going to try some torenia in my garden that I am growing from seed. I have a partially shady huge backyard, and really want some color back there.

Can't remember what the other plant was. Maybe these are more suited to the Stillwater gardens than here in OKC?

Susan

Just a little more info on Oklahoma Proven. A committe is formed every year made up of several people in the industry from across the state. The plants that make the Ok Proven list are plants that will withstand conditions from NW to SE Okla and from NE to SW Okla and anything in between.

Another excellent program of interest for most of Oklahoma is 'Prairie Star' from Kansas State University.

Thanks for the info, Plantchk! I'll check that out, as I am really trying to "go native" in my garden. The butterflies and moths prefer native plants over newer cultivars.

Susan

I want to take a closer look at the other years. I notice the Evening Primrose. Mine are pink and one of the worst gardening mistakes I have ever made. They are everywhere and are extremely invasive. At one point I thought they were going to stop selling them because they were declared so invasive.

Sammy

Pink Evening Primrose are one of the worst gardening mistakes I ever made, too, Sammy! I planted them way down front near the driveway/roadway, about 300 feet from the house. I figured that if they went wild at least they were nowhere near my house/barn/gardens/landscaped areas. Well, now they are in my vegetable garden, growing in the shrub bed in front of the house, growing in the pasture behind the barn, doing their best to crowd out the daylilies, etc. And, wouldn't you know it...they survived the drought and are already growing again and soon to bloom.

I love the way the pink evening primroses look, and I like how REALLY TOUGH they are, but they are a garden thug and are relentlessly endeavoring to take over every inch of space I have. I am watching them now to see if they will grow out into the asphalt road. :)

On the other hand, if they would crowd out the bermuda grass, I would plant more of them.

Dawn

Dawn, I think they may be on an invasive list, and not to be sold here. Years ago a woman named Sue was the host of the Oklahoma Gardening show, and she seemed to have had the same experience. I thought she made a reference to underground runners, but I am not sure.

Bermuda needs Round Up. I really hate messing with it.

Sammy

I have pink evening primrose in a pot. Should I get rid of it? I was so hoping to get a primrose moth.

I guess I won't have much choice but to get out the Round-up for my front bed, in order to get rid of the bermuda grass. I'll just have to do my best to attack it on a
"windless" Oklahoma day! Right! I think I recall having to apply it after the grass starts growing first, though. Is that right?

Susan

I hate to use Round-Up but found I could control it if I mowed the grass, then put the diluted stuff on with a sponge. It means rubber gloves and a little hands and knees effort, but at least I didn't spray something else.

Sammy--if it is not on an invasive list, it certainly ought to be!

Susan, Before you decide to keep that pink evening primrose in a pot, be sure you really, really want it because mine have spread relentlessly. And I do love the way they look, but I just didn't want them everywhere. And I mean EVERYWHERE!!!

Soonergrandmom: I have acres of bermuda, so Round-up is not an affordable solution. :) I do use Round-up to help keep the bermuda from creeping into my rose beds and vegetable garden. It is relentless, though, and just keeps trying. Every year, though, I convert more of the "yard" to shrub and perennial beds, so maybe I will at least get rid of all the bermuda around the house, one of these days. And, after we built the house I planted a LOT of trees. I'm hoping once the trees are larger they will shade out the bermuda. That's more of a long-term solution than a short-term one though.

Spent some time today diggin out bermuda that is creeping into the vegetable garden from the driveway....not that I have bermuda grass in the driveway, but that's where it seems to be coming from.

Dawn

It seems my bermuda is putting up some growth and getting a bit green, so I may get some Roundup this weekend and start applying, if it's not too windy. If it is, I can always cover the plants in the front bed with some plastic drop cloth I have on hand.

I hate bermuda grass so much, I would never want to visit the island of Bermuda! Crab grass is not as bad; it's easy to pull up, and I let it grow in the backyard because it's always green during summer and looks very lush. Call me the "crazy lady"! LOL!

Susan

Pulling this up! I was googling looking for a full list of the Oklahoma Proven plants. Anyone know where the entire list is? I know I have found it before, but I can't put my finger on it.

But, ha, reading through this list. You know I am the queen of thug plants, right? I like my pink evening primrose. AND I replant it! Of course, it is surrounded on two side by concrete and asphalt and the other two sides by bermuda. Soooo. it is fairly well contained.

Lisa, My pink evening primrose began blooming today. And it is in the front pasture, completely uncontained, and back behind the garage, uncontained, and wherever else it chooses to pop up, totally uncontained. The only attention I give it is to pull up any of them that pop up in the garden. I'd like to leave them there, but they would relentlessly take over the whole garden.

Try the link below. It has the OK Proven list by year so that you can click on each year for info on that year's plants.

Dawn

Edit: The other years loaded fine, but when I clicked on 2015, it wouldn't load for me. Maybe my rural internet is too slow. If you click on the Plant Profiles section, it loads the whole book----all 50-something pages.

Oklahoma Proven Website---Gallery

Thanks Dawn! I have pulled up that list a number of times, but for some reason last night I could not find it!

I'm glad you brought it up! Tx