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Ridiculously High Fertilization

18 years ago

The University of Illinois Extension web site says, "Although overfertilization, especially with nitrogen, is often suspected in these cases because the growth is luxuriant, peppers can actually produce fruit quite well under almost ridiculously high fertility programs."

I was surprised to read that because, as they say, it contradicts a lot of advice I have seen elsewhere. I think it is worth doing a controlled experiment next year. It should be easy enough to test that assertion. I just need to decide how much is "almost ridiculously high" and how much is beyond ridiculous. I don't want to pickle the chiles before they are picked.

Jim

Here is a link that might be useful: University of Illinois Extension

Comments (8)

  • 18 years ago

    Jim,
    What author tries to communicate is peppers can withstand excessive amount of fertilizer and still can produce fruits.It shows how robust pepper plants are.Pressumably root system will allow only necessary amount of fertilizer to enter when there is excessive supply of fertilizer out side around the roots.
    Now let us read the sentence as is and then read with substituting---- will--- in place of can.

    ------Peppers can actually produce fruit quite well under almost ridiculously high fertility programs-----

    Same statement with writing--- will-- instead of can.
    ------Peppers will actually produce fruit quite well under almost ridiculously high fertilizer programs.

    Author has been careful in writing --can--in the statement for clarity of the meaning.

  • 18 years ago

    Interesting observation, chaman. In addition to that we can parse the sentence to highlight the "quite well" part of it. Then maybe just the "quite". :-)

    Where does that leave us?

    Jim

  • 18 years ago

    Remember, though, that there is a fine line between "Ridiculously High Fertilization" and fertilizer burn.

    Alan

  • 18 years ago

    As William Blake proclaimed: "Enough or too much!" You can't tell how much is enough until you've experienced too much.

  • 18 years ago

    Coming from an authoritative source, I thought it was a bold and interesting statement. It encourages me to fertilize a little more heavily. What is your opinion of it? Will it encourage you to change your fertilizer applications at all?

    Jim

  • 18 years ago

    I started out with too high fert for peppers and can tell you that the leaves: will curl, have dimples, fall off and will still produce peppers if and I say if the peppers are already on the plant. If flowering they will sometimes produce fruit, but blossom drop is common. In the end your plant looks like crap, but you still get peppers.

    Advice, do not use more than 550 ppm of sauce on your plants unless you like ugly pepper plants.

    I was at 1500 ppm when my plants could take no more sauce. Also the Bell Peppers can take the 1500 ppm, while plants like Serano, Thai, Pepperconni, Cayenne, Scott Bonnet can take only about 1200 ppm, and Anaheim can take only 800 ppm.

    I have done lots of experimenting.

    However, do not let me stop you from having a go at it.

  • 18 years ago

    mhargraves, your information is far more precise than any I have seen or expected to see. It is much appreciated. I need to translate the ppm figures to my fertilizing practices, but I can do that.

    How close to the maximum tolerances would you recommend going? I imagine 50% of the maximum would produce very satisfactory growth and yield while maintaining a good margin of safety.

    Jim

  • 18 years ago

    What is the sauce? Are we discussing hydroponics?

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