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Dropping leaves

20 years ago

Hello to everyone I a newbe to this forum But I have got my first Plumeria 6 years ago. I started with two small plant and it has grown to a full blown passion. I now have at last count 22 plants most from named cutting and a hand full of seedlings in there 3rd year. I live on the upper Texas coast and they seem to do really good. This pass winter I left them plunged and only cover them and they were no worse for the ware. I have one that I moved last year it about six and half feet tall and did well after the move and has been doing well this year. But in the last week it started dropping leaves they are turning yellow. It not the normal dead leave drop I normally see one or two leave turn then drop but it seven or eight at a time. That over a two or three days IÂll go out and there will be all these leave yellow and drooping and I just touch the stem and they fall. This started about a week and a half after we had a lot of rain like seven day that it at least a inch or two. Could this be the problem. The reason IÂm worried is that it only this plant all my other one look good and I have a six foot Rose Red in the ground that is doing fine. So I want to blame it on wet roots. But I just not sure at this point

Don.

Comments (8)

  • 20 years ago

    My initial suspicion is the soil is not draining well and the excess rain has waterlogged the root system. I would dig a small hole under the plant to see if the soil is very wet. If so, you may want to dig it up and replant in well draining soil, and create a raised bed for it to avoid root rot. If it is waterlogged, don't delay in fixing the situation.

    Another problem may be insects. Check under the leaves for signs of infestation. However, usually these start out with spotty discolorations leading to leaf drop. So my money is on excess water in the root zone.
    Mike

  • 20 years ago

    Agree totally with mike. Also squeeze the base at ground level to see if it has any mushy, stick your finger down the stem about 1" and feel for mushy. Look all along the stem and branches for mushy parts or black discoloration. The plant appears to be in shock for some reason- water us first, stem rot is second, something in the soil that leeched into the roots is third. I agree again with mike that only beetle invasion into the stocks causes shock. Normal insects have a slower effect. Bill

  • 20 years ago

    Thats what I figured. It's in a clay pot. The ground is damp not much more damper than it is around the one a got planted in the ground but the pot may be pull water in more or something Or that bed just doesn't drain as well. Or it could be this plant doesn't like it's feet as wet as the Rose Red. I'll dig it pull it up tomorrow. and see what it looks like in the hole.
    Thanks for the input. I was telling myself this was the problem.

    Thanks again
    Don

  • 20 years ago

    Well I have time to re-pot this plant. After reading Growing Plumerias By Jim Little. He covered this in Root Pruning. The pot I had it in was to small and the bottom root were had rotted some what due to the plant being Root bound. The Tap root was folded up from just under the man root ball down to the bottom of the pot it made about eight fold back and forth across the pot before coming out of the bottom and the part coming out of the bottom was showing signs of rotting. If I could lay out the part of the tap root I cut off it would be right at a foot long. So she got most of the mass of the fibrous roots removed and re-potted in new soil and a much larger pot. We see how she looks in a eek are so. For those that don't have this book or seen it, It has some of the best information in it for care and trouble shooting your Plumerias.

    Don

  • 20 years ago

    My Plumie was doing the same thing which I have learned was from water not being to properly drain.

    Where did you find the book you were talking about? I also live in Texas and am brand new to Plumies. I already feel like they are my babies! LOL

  • 20 years ago

    Teas in houston, it's "Growing Plumerias In Hawai'i" By Jim Little. It opened my eye to things I was scared to do to them that we normal to to our other plants. I feel the cost and time it take them to grow is why we do it. And I can see were things I have been doing has really slowed the growth. We all want blooms I feel the stronger plant with good growth is the way I'm going to take it and see what happens. I going to work for over all growth of my plant not push them so hard to bloom. I was told once if you get blooms you'll get growth I now am thinking you need good strong growth to suport your blooms. I coud be wrong but we will see.

    Don

  • 20 years ago

    Jim's book is currently completely sold out and they are in the process or re-printing a new batch. It sold like hotcakes. Someone might still have a few but all the clubs in Calif are back ordered to get new cases. It is a really excellent book and the cost (about $10-12) is a bargain. The other book for all to own is the one by the Eggenbergers ($22). Both are currently listed in the book section of Maui Gardens along with the coffee table book by Exotic;s Allen Bunch ($50). Check the link below. Bill

    Here is a link that might be useful: Maui gardens books

  • 20 years ago

    IF you live in Houston area I would head in to Teas they had about 30 of them on the 10th They could be sold out by now. It's worth a call or drive.
    Don

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