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Identification?

17 years ago

I was directed here from the What´s This Plant forum. Can someone identify this for me? It´s growing at 2100m along roadsides here in Dapa, Colombia. I assume it´s alien.

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Comments (11)

  • 17 years ago

    Pitter2006:
    Greetings,looks like Salvia sagittata,being in Columbia
    that would make sense.
    Art

  • 17 years ago

    I don't think it is S. sagittata, which is from Peru, but may be another member of the same section, Hastatae. Those found in Columbia include funckii, scutellarioides, macrophylla, rumicifolia, and palaefolia. The flowers don't look right for macrophylla, and the leaves are too wide for sagittata.

    Are the stems trailing along the ground, and is the soil fairly rich, or is it weak in terms of humus?

    These sages cross readily, and there can be a lot of variation in the species. The foliage is definitely hastate.

    What state and mountain range is Dapa in, and is the slope on the east or west-facing side (this refers to rain shadowing effects).

  • 17 years ago

    I am on the eastern slope of the western cordillera above the city of Cali in Valle De Cauca department. I would say the soil where it is growing is rich in humas. As to stems trailing I will have to go have another look. I will be quite surprised if this plant turns out to be native to Colombia!

  • 17 years ago

    Looks like Salvia scutellarioides.........if so, should be trailing. I saw this on roadsides at a high elevation in Ecuador a few years ago, it was everywhere.

  • 17 years ago

    I found Dapa on Google Earth. It looks like a good spot to grow coffee. Salvia scutellarioides is supposed to almost be a pest in coffee plantations.

    Go to MyPage and send me an e-mail, so I can send you a PDF with info on section Hastatae sages in Columbia.

  • 17 years ago

    Thank you, yes it´s trailing.

  • 17 years ago

    My guess, given the shape of the leaves and really blue flowers are that it is Salvia patens.

  • 17 years ago

    Definitely not patens, flowers completely different, and patens is only found in Mexico.

    Still reckon it is scutellarioides.

  • 17 years ago

    I agree. The pigments in patens and section Hastatae sages (sagittata, macrophylla, scutellarioides, etc) are probably very similar. They are all pure blue, a rare color.

  • 17 years ago

    My ten-penn'orth, for what it's worth: definitely not patens, looks like scutellarioides - not quite the right colour, perhaps, but this is probably down to the reproduction.

  • 17 years ago

    I vote for scutellaroides, especially because of the way it seems to be running around low down...
    Def not patens.