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New and need advice

21 years ago

I've just built a 4' x 8' raised bed. I've started the following seeds a few weeks ago: beans (tendergreen improved bush), bloomsdale spinach, danvers carrots, greensleeves hubrid cucumber, sweetie tom's and Italian parsley.

The bed is in the south side of the property laying lengthwise horizontally.

Veggie gardening is all new to me, and I'm not sure in which order to plant these things. I have a spot for the beans if they are going to take up too much room in the bed. Also, I need instructions/advice on how many of each plant I can squeeze in there!

Thanks in advance!!

Comments (11)

  • 21 years ago

    Sorry, can't help you with planting times, as our weather is so different, but we plant 1 bush bean to a square, 4 spinach, 16 carrots, 1 tomato, 4 parsley (we can't grow cucumber outdoors, so can't help you there). We have found that as we have improved the spoil in our beds by adding manure and leaf mould in the winter, so we can increase the number of plants per square. Hope this helps.

  • 21 years ago

    what zone are you in?

  • 21 years ago

    Be sure to take a look at the FAQ (listed at the top of the topic list) for common seed spacings and patterns. You should be able to fit most of what you listed in a 4x8 bed and have enough for fresh eating.

    Your description of bed orientation confuzzled me - is the long axis running N/S or E/W?

    Height of named veggies shortest to tallest, shortest to the south (then to the west I think, but that's a minor detail)
    - danvers carrots
    - bloomsdale spinach
    - tendergreen improved bush bean
    - Italian parsley
    - sweetie tom's (don't know this variety - either cage for bush/determinate or trellis for vining indeterminate)
    - greensleeves hubrid cucumber (trellis)

  • 21 years ago

    Thanks for all the replies.
    I'm in zone 6 (it took some searching since a few maps had different listings, finally I went with Arbor Day's map).
    Ray, sometimes I'm a real dullard. The bed is laid out E/W, long. Thank you so VERY much for the plant height descriptions!!
    The sweetie tom's are a vine variety. Hope there good. Any other advice or warnings, please comment.

    Thanks so much!

  • 21 years ago

    warning: it might be too cold where you are for a nekkid tomato outside :) i have those big poland spring water jugs over mine (bottoms cut off) at night, b/c it gets down in the low 40's in this zone 6

  • 21 years ago

    not too cool if she's near me in zone 6, missouri, i planted over 100 tomatoes outside last week, temp's running near 90 daytime here, 60's at night, frost time over here.

  • 21 years ago

    cersone, I think I'm closer to your neck of the woods if your in the ozarks.

    I got the SFG book, '81 edition. Very interesting.

    Question, after reading the SFG I realized that spinach and other lettuces are cool weather crops. Does this mean that I won't have any spinach and should not attempt to grow lettuce, either?

  • 21 years ago

    Since you've got vining maters and cukes, I'd run a trellis for them all the way across on row 3 looking at the bed from the south. Plant the spinach and parsley on row 4 (northern row) as they can tolerate some shade, especially as things heat up, and you probably don't need more than 2-3 squares of parsley. That would leave the first 2 rows for staggered plantings of beans and carrots. Radishes can be interplanted with the carrots, you'll harvest the radishes long before the carrots will start needing that space and pulling the radishes will help loosen the soil around the carrots. Depending on how much spinach you want, you might even start a few squares of carrots and radishes on the back row and consider a second round of spinach after that is pulled plus adding another type of veggie (or two) on the sunny side

  • 21 years ago

    Ray, that makes sense, putting the trellis in row 3 to shade the spinach and parsley.

    Thanks so much!!

  • 21 years ago

    ceresone, i have zone envy!! it always amazes me how much the temp can vary in a given zone :)

  • 21 years ago

    Even though the zone numbering plays out about where I am coming from the west, the Sunset zone system has a lot going for it in addressing regional differences. If you are not familiar with it, it can be loosely described as defining much more discrete "chunks" of geography that have a similar climate, which allows comparison to other such chunks in similar USDA zones to see what might best adapt where you are. There is a growing push to create such a system nationwide, as the USDA zone maps just touch the tip of the iceberg.

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