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19 years ago

While at Disney World in FL I saw a nice tree that could have been a crab apple tree but it had long flat dry fruit about 10" to 14" long, like a very long but flat string bean. I picked one and it was so dry it fell apart. The pieces were picked up and planted in a pot when I arrived in eastern MA. That was a week ago and the seeds are sprouting. If any one can ID it please tell me how to care for it especialy in winter?

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  • 19 years ago

    photo photo photo!!

  • 19 years ago

    I wish I could show you a picture but alas the tree is in "Disney world in Fl. and I'm in the Boston area. All that's available is the description on this site.
    If someone has been to Disney,s Carribean resort and has a picture they want to donate be my guest. I'd like a copy myself.
    Paul

  • 19 years ago

    Paul, yep, realise you and the tree are not in the same area, but, can you post a pic of the seedling??? Not saying I can ID it for you as I'm from the UK, but others maybe able to. Google 'Photobucket' and sign up for a free account to post pics on here. That would go some way in helping someone have a stab at an ID for you.
    Also, what shape were the actual seeds, their colour and size, colour of seed pod, leaf shape/size may help also. It was fruiting in the last week of June do you mean? More info neeeded, anything!
    Gill.

  • 19 years ago

    A friend of mine experienced this same dilemma at Disney. She saw a pretty tree but could not ID the tree. She called Disney's Plant Maintenance department and described the tree and its location. The next day, someone called her with the name of the tree. They were very nice about getting the info. You may want to try that....

  • 19 years ago

    PS. If I were to guess what the tree was, I would guess a moringa tree.

  • 19 years ago

    Greenclaws - trini1 - boca joe

    The seedlings are not big enough to ID yet from a photo but I will take a picture when they are.
    Also I have been trying to reach the correct department in Disney World but no luck so far but I'll keep trying.
    The seeds came from a long flat pod, very dry, very tan, very flat; infact it crumbled when picked up but it was planted anyway even though the seeds could not be seen.
    I was very surprized when the plants sprouted.
    Paul

  • 19 years ago

    Paul,

    Maybe a Tabebuia? A few have long flat delicate seed pods, although I am not sure they get quite as long as you describe. Just a thought.

    Bill

  • 19 years ago


    The seed pods look like the pods of the moringa tree but the pods are thinner. That could be because they are older and dryer. The seeds of the Tabebuia look like thema also only not as long.
    Paul

  • 19 years ago

    The seedling has it's first true leaves and they look like small hornbeam leaves. I'll wait for the next set of leaves or wait until the 1st leaves mature to take a picture.
    Paul

  • 19 years ago

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  • 19 years ago

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  • 19 years ago

    Has anyone recognized the plants in the picture?

  • 19 years ago

    I still can't tell but it in not moringa that's for sure. Did the mature leaves look like that and did it have any flowers on it?

  • 19 years ago

    I wish that question could be answered but the whole thing was done on a whim. There were no flowers at the time. It was planted near the main pool at the carribian resort so it must like moisture or humidity. It was shaped like a crab apple or small maple.
    If you look closer at the pictures you can see other seeds starting to sprout.
    Paul

  • 19 years ago

    Is it in any of these pictures? I searched yahoo images, and you can do the same with google images and maybe find additional ones.

    http://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images;_ylt=A0geu55wuLBGm2oAVjFXNyoA?ei=UTF-8&p=disney's%20caribbean%20beach%20resort%20pool&fr2=tab-web&fr=b1ie7

    Here is a link that might be useful: Disney's Caribbean Resort Pool

  • 19 years ago

    melsy4
    I see it but i'm going out. Will be back as soon as I can.
    Thanks

  • 19 years ago

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/mousemanual/161040599/

    The tree is just to the left of the 3 palms. My granddaughter stood on the wall to get the pod.
    If someone knows how to enlarge and isolate the tree it may be ID'd.
    Thank you for your help.
    Paul

  • 19 years ago

    http://www.themeparks.com/wdw/resorts/images/cbpoolx.jpg

    Another picture. On the right of the picture and to the left of the 2 palms
    Paul

  • 19 years ago

    I just saw a picture of wisteria beans and they look like the beans that i planted.
    Can a vine be trained to be a tree?
    It is hardy to hardiness zone 9.
    Paul

  • 19 years ago

    From research:
    Quit a few Purple Tabebuia were planted by Disney.
    Now I have to find out how to care for them. Does it lose its leaves in winter? Can it be grown indoors. It would not be good to lose them now so any help on winter indoor care will be appreciated.
    If there are no replies I will make a seperate post
    Paul

  • 19 years ago

    Disney does have a lot of Tabebuia impetiginosa trees. They have serrated leaves like your seedlings display. Although it is one of the hardiest Tabs, it is only hardy in zone 9 (20 F).
    Joel

  • 19 years ago

    Joel
    I realize that but I'm going to try to make indoor bonsai's out of them. Do you know if it is slow or fast growing.
    Paul

  • 19 years ago

    Fairly fast. It is also deciduous here.

  • 19 years ago

    Does it need a dorment period?
    If it leaves drop I shouldn't through it out?
    At what temp does it drop it's leaves.
    When I lived in the Tampa FL area many plants lost leaves at 28 degrees but came back in the spring.
    Paul

  • 19 years ago

    Dormancy in Florida usually is fairly short and spurred by low temps. The trees probably drop in Dec.then typically flower in Feb.and flush back out afterwards. Now, in S.Fla.I have noticed young Tab.impe trees remain evergreen until they are of blooming age then become deciduous or semi-evergreen. This might imply you need not to worry about inducing dormancy at all.

  • 19 years ago

    Thank you Joel for all your help.
    One more question:
    At about what age do they start blooming?
    Now I'll leave you alone.
    Paul

  • 19 years ago

    Although I have seen them bloom at 3-4ft tall (in a 3g pot)--most flower when 8ft+ and usually when in the ground.
    Good Luck,
    Joel