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Red Brandywine...potato leaf?

17 years ago

I am growing 3 late-sown varieties (sown a few weeks later than the rest). One of them is Red Brandywine. I got all the seeds from Tomatobob.com. The true leaves are just emerging, and it looks to me like these supposedly "red brandywine" seedlings are turning out to be a potato leaf variety. Not likely a cross pollination, because PL is a recessive trait. Not likely stray seed, because all 3 of my potted-up red brandywine seedlings appear to be PL. Maybe a mis-identification or a whole batch of mislabeled seed? Any thoughts? I'll be growing these anyway and I look forward to seeing what fruit they produce. And as they get bigger, I'll be able to tell if they're truly PL or not. So far, they look a heck of a lot like PL, especially when compared to the other seedlings.

Comments (17)

  • 17 years ago

    I think the snob in me giggles at the name...tomatobob. /snicker. I rolled my eyes too. :=)

    He only lists one Brandywine. The same description under both "Red" tomatoes and beefsteaks. I thinking Brandywine maybe but not the Brandywine he thinks. Did you ask him? He may be calling it "red" by mistake.

  • 17 years ago

    In the past there have been long threads discussing the "Potato Leaf" Red Brandywine. IIRC, somewhere along the line there was a mixup, cross or mislabeling, or maybe it was a sport; and several seed companies got seeds that they sold as Red Brandywine, not realizing that the original Red was RL. So now there are both.

    Go to Tomato Growers Supply Company and search for the name "Red Brandywine" and you will see both of them listed.

    Bets

  • 17 years ago

    Here is a previous discussion on this issue in which Carolyn and others answer your question directly. Usually if you will search the forum by variety name you'll find several discussions about it that can answer your question.

    Dave

    Here is a link that might be useful: Red Brandywine discussion

  • 17 years ago

    Thanks for the link Dave. I think this discussion happens anually. The one I remember reading was from 2003 or 2004. And I was bad, I did not search for it.

    Bets

  • 17 years ago

    So I'm actually not growing the Landis strain I was hoping for. But I'm sure this one will be good anyway. BTW it's my first PL variety I've grown.

  • 17 years ago

    Just curious - has anyone here grown the incorrect PL variety, and what was the fruit like?

  • 17 years ago

    Yes, it is discussed in the long discussion linked above. Also in several of the discussions linked below.

    Dave

    Here is a link that might be useful: Red potato leaf brandywine discussions

  • 17 years ago

    Red PL Brandywine is pretty good. I grew it alongside Mortgage Lifter and it was similar in size, productivity, and flavor quality. Ironically, I got a stray seed RL pink fruited plant out of my seed pack that turned out to be a great tomato. I have no way of knowing what it really is, but if I rename it I sure as heck won't put 'brandywine' in the name.

  • 17 years ago

    Thanks, I hope mine turn out well. The leaves are definitely PL. One plant doubled the size of its first true leaf within about 12 hours! Thanks to Miracle Gro for that.

  • 17 years ago

    Hey ... you can name it Earl's Faux Reprise

  • 17 years ago

    Hey ... you can name it Earl's Faux Reprise

    ****
    You are a bad man Bill. LOL

    I wonder if ERF communicates with Marianna's Revenge. ( smile)

    Carolyn

  • 17 years ago

    Is that like Montezuma's Revenge?

  • 17 years ago

    Is that like Montezuma's Revenge?

    ****

    Nope, I've had Montezuma's Revenge when travelling here and there but it's nothing at all like Marianna's Peace Revenge which is strictly a tomato garden situation. LOL

    Carolyn

  • 17 years ago

    "Just curious - has anyone here grown the incorrect PL variety, and what was the fruit like?"

    Yes. The fruit was slightly oblate and a little smaller than Brandywine Sudduth. It tasted very good. Complex flavors like BW Sudduth, but not quite as good. However, it was much more productive than that variety.

  • 17 years ago

    Seedboy,

    Which Red Brandywine, potato leaf, did you grow? From which seed company?

  • 17 years ago

    I still maintain the faux red brandywine PL that I got from Chuck Wyatt's site in 2002. It is a very good flavored tomato that produces huge flattened fruit up to 2 pounds. I need fresh seed this year so it will be in my garden again. I also grow the true Red Brandywine which is an excellent all around red tomato from 12 ounces up to about a pound.

    I had a variant plant in 2008 from supposed Red Brandywine seed that produced huge fruit well over 2 pounds. I saved lots of seed and will grow it out this year to see if I can stabilize it into a large fruited variety. It is listed on my website as Beefywine for the time being.

    DarJones

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