Dwarf. Determinate. Multiflora. Rugose. Sets about 10 - 15% of the flowers it produces. Will grow in a 3-gallon container. Grows better in a 5-gallon pot, or in the ground. Erect growth needs only a single, 2-foot bamboo cane support. Small, up to golfball-sized fruit at best. Three to multi-cell, kiwi fruit green interior. Green exterior with amber blush when ripe. Delightful, zingy flavor when slightly underripe. Sweet, fruity, not-tomatoey flavor when dead ripe. Nice salad garnish.

Bill, where do you get that kind of information? I was looking at Lime Green Salad earlier this year as an "oh what the heck" variety. In the end, I bought Malakhitovaya Shkatulka instead but I do not recall seeing that kind of specification for either one of them, certainly not from the suppliers.

Bill, where do you get that kind of information? I was looking at Lime Green Salad earlier this year as an "oh what the heck" variety. In the end, I bought Malakhitovaya Shkatulka instead but I do not recall seeing that kind of specification for either one of them, certainly not from the suppliers.

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I'm not speaking for Bill, who will speak for himself, but many of us have grown Lime Green Salad and quite a few of us are SSE members and have access to the backgrounds and reports of those who list varieties in the Yearbook.

And we've also seen online reports that others have made. I've been posting online about tomatoes since 1989 and have seen lots of feedback on varieties over the years, for instance.

But personal experience is best.

Here, for instance, is more info about Mala________ can't spell it without going backwards or looking it up. LOL

Bred by Rissian Farm Svetlana in Siberia, offered by the Russian Co Siberskiy Sad, Novosibirsk, Siberia, name means Malachite Casket or Malachite Box, depending on individual translation, and a number of listers for this variety go on to decribe the plant habit, size/shape of fruits they get, and their impressions of taste and where they got their seed from and when.

I'll be growing it this year as well and then and only then will I be able to describe it according to my experience with it.

THere are varying opinions about Lime Green Salad as well, and I'd much rather grow a larger fruited Green When Ripe and didn't bond that well with LGSalad myself. LOL

Suppliers have limited space to describe varieties and some of them know their toamtoes b'c they've grown them and some don't. So commercial blurbs are almost always hard to decipher, especially b'c they make everything sound so wonderful.

The only seed Co owner I know of who was as up front as they come about varieties and told both the positives, and the negatives when they existed was Dr. Jeff McCormack when he owned SESE ( Southern Exposure Seed Exchange.

Glenn Drowns also makes negative comments about some varieties, based on his experience with them, and he grows all he offers with just a few exceptions when some of his varieties don't make it in a particular year. Since many seed Co owners are or have been SSE members many of them get/got their starts from other SSE members, and those owners who don't grow ALL their own varieties for seed production often use parts of the SSE members blurbs in their catalogs/websites. I know b'c I've traced a few words from some of my SSE listings, as well as some from that book, and find them popping up here and there.

Carolyn, and it's clear to me that Bill was giving you info from his own experience with Lime Green Salad, a variety bred by Tom Wagner.
I love green when ripes and have grown maybe 15 different ones and to date Cherokee Green is my absolute fave. So I'll see how this one stacvks up against CG.

Thanks, Carolyn

I got the impression, though, that much of it is quite technical information and therefore would be consistent (unless modified by general agreement) across an extended period of time and many individuals. Yes, I can see that there is a personal dimension too yet it is all very clear and specific with little hype and hoopla. In short it appears to me to be the kind of info one could believe and use. Not that any seed supplier would necessarily put all this on the packet (though it is concise enough to do that) but it just looked like the kind of thing one would find in a well-maintained database somewhere. If there isn't such a thing, there should be!

Sneezer,

Yes to what Carolyn said. And yes, my comments were from personal experience and observation. Generally, I don't comment on tomato varieties unless I've grown them at least once. Otherwise, I would quote something from an SSE Yearbook or from the NCSU Cultivar Lists, in both cases giving credit to those sources.

I'll look and see if I have any pics of Lime Green Salad in my photobucket; and if so, post pics lower down in this message.

Anyway, I really like Lime Green Salad (LGS) for reasons other than just flavor ... it is compact, determinate, looks like a rugose potato leaf, grows well in containers, and looks like something I can work with genetically. Well, the flavor is okay too, kinda interesting especially when a tad underripe; but really I've found it to be variable from plant to plant and from week to week ... and maybe even between pots and ground culture. Besides, as so many people will point out, flavor is a more individual thing ... people-wise, plant-wise, climate-wise, etc.

I've grown LGS in 2006 and 2007, and I'm finding individual plants that make larger fruit and going with saving those seeds. The individual plants making the larger fruits are doing so simply by throwing fruit that has more seed cells. Many of the tomatoes on most of the plants will have two or three seed cells. I'm growing four or five LGS plants each year and selecting for those that throw 4, 5, or 6 celled fruit ... where the tomatoes look almost like little beefsteak types with slightly scalloped shoulders.

Oh, and here is the "multiflora" expression I was talking about ...

But also, I agree with Carolyn that other green-when-ripe types are better for general purposes especially if you like indeterminate, full-size vines with beefsteak type tomatoes. Cherokee Green is the best I've grown yet.

This year, I'm growing Green Giant from two sources ... Tomato Growers Supply and Victory Seeds.
We shall see what all the hooplah is about with those.

Bill

Bill, if I called that Indiana Underground number I see above would I reach you? ( smile)

Carolyn, who says she's grown Green Giant and will be interested to know what you think of it.

LOL,
Well Bill you are to the point if not concise.... LOL
Thanks Bill and Carolyn for the info. I'm not sure if I will grow LGS due to limited space but I would really like to try it. The "delightful, zingy flavor when underripe" thing is exactly what I think I would like. I also like the fact that it is salad sized, sounds kinda fun.

Carolyn, are you a typing master, or do you have a secretary? LOL You leave such large posts sometimes, I wonder where you find the time.... just curious...

Bill, are you in southern Indiana? I'm in Louisville. The reason I ask is because I have already started all my seeds and I would like to get a LGS start from you if you have an extra. If you aren't too far north of the river I could drive up and maybe trade out a couple transplants with you. Lemme know...

Troy

Troy, I'm in a real bind right now. I started a couple hundred seedlings for the Master Gardener plant sale, and thought I would have greenhouse space by now to pot-up and bench them for the month of April. The sale is May 3 and 4.

The greenhouse space fell through and instead, I have them spread all over drafting tables still under lights with half of them in 4-inch pots and the rest still in 2-inch starter cells and they're growing like mad. Got some outside the house under the eaves and it's threatening T-storms tomorrow and Thursday ... and I'm leaving for Austin Friday and have no idea what to do about the babes.

Consequently, I have only started about 24 dwarf types, still under lights, and still have a few to start. Lime Green Salad seed will probably not get planted until I get back from Austin next week (going for a long weekend to visit daughter). But I will start a few cuz I'd like to cross them with the Green Giant. I started the LGS late last spring too and had them ripe right up until frost.

I'm in Evansville, but I occasionally visit a friend named Alan who has a greenhouse and market garden in New Pekin, IN northwest of Louisville oh about 20 - 25 miles. In fact, he may have started a few LGS. I'll check.

Keep in touch with me by email at tomatohead48@hotmail.com ... if not for LGS plants, then for some pretty far out dwarves that are just as good or stranger. Or email me an addy and I'll post you some LGS seeds tomorrow. Believe me ... they'll sprout right up from direct seeding into 5-gallon pots next week or two outside and you'll have nice maturing dwarf LGS plants by late July anyway.

Bill

Carolyn, are you a typing master, or do you have a secretary? LOL You leave such large posts sometimes, I wonder where you find the time.... just curious...

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Troy, why not praise me for those posts where I answer with only a sentence or two? LOL

Yes, sometimes I do write long posts but I have competition from several others here at GW on that score.

I could say that I have the time b'c I'm retired, but the fact is that I've always written more detailed posts sometimes, and perhaps too detailed at times.

But I think that's perhaps a reflection of my former career as a teacher where I just get into that mode and share all I know about something all at one time.

And no, I'm not going to say I'll try to do shorter posts, much to your chagrin. LOL

Carolyn

...a bit more info about Lime Green Salad, both historical and personal observations.

Tania

Here is a link that might be useful: Lime Green Salad

Now Carolyn I didn't mean that as complaint. Believe me I love all the info... I'm just such a poor typist, I think you must have bionic fingers. lol

Thanks guys... and Bill I'll shoot you an e-mail

Troy