Here is the 2nd pic:

Now, where are you from, again, Greening? It looks like a Tommy Atkins, but they are so full of fiber it can't be them....

MDog

I'm from Algeria, and although the weather is perfect to grow Mangoes, we had never produced a single fruit, all we get are the imported ones.

This one was imported from South America. It has little fiber, but not that much, because I remember other ones that are a nightmare to eat or to enjoy.

When the season comes, I will take photos of the African ones, usually they're green, yet they're fully ripe, and if you leave them to turn orange or yellow, they'll be like juice from inside, and I want to identify them as well. Mainly, they come from Mali, Niger, and Chad.

Here is one type that we get from Mali, and they were over ripe and full of sugar and juices:

Well Greening - it sounds to me like you have to be one
of the first to actually GROW mangoes in your country.
Let us know when that happens!

MDog

Let us know

I'm struggling with Spiders/Spider-Mites and the night cold.

Out of more than 30, I have about a dozen now alive that I started growing from June. I grow them in my balcony, and I even wash their leaves almost each 3 days, and I have to destroy the spiders' web each time, and crash those little tiny ones that try to escape. I've seen all colors that I had never thought they exist in our place.

I believe I brought them in some infested grafted apple and citrus trees that I bought from another city, which are all dead by the way.

Soon I shall start trying with Avocado. My Papaya died from the cold too. And never got to germinate the persimmon seeds, and I still have plenty of them and have no idea if they're sterile so to speak, although the seller claimed they're their heirloom from Hong Kong.

For now, I can't bring the seedlings inside, unless my wife would kick us all out :) It's enough a mess in the 2 sides' balconies already, but I'll keep you updated.

GreeningTheDesert

i grow papaya, and am just starting to grow a few mango.
Here in New Orleans i am on the edge of climate that can grow either.
They seem fairly similar in them being cold-hardy.

i just checked the climate in 2 cities in Algeria compared to where i live, (New Orleans) and its very similar, but 3-4 degrees colder.
I dont know where in Algeria you live, or the climate,
but, a mature papaya can only survive light freezes, and only if protected.
Mine are near my house on a South facing wall and the bricks reflect the heat, and a few roots even grow under the house. i also add a huge amount of mulch. banana leaves, oak leaves, grass etc... about a foot high.
i still worry about freezes. They get through mild winters loosing leaves, but, they come back in the spring.

Also, i think Mango like wet summers and dry winters
(im no expert, mango people can correct me)
which is the opposite of most of Algeria
(your city may be different)

Tindouf seems a couple of degrees warmer, so maybe there it is possible. but it gets very little summer rainfall

Algiers and tindouf are the 2 cities i checked...
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tindouf.
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Algiers
Algiers
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my area...
New Orleans

Algeria is kind of diverse when it comes to climate , check out this for instance:

http://www.oran.climatemps.com/

And even better places like Mascara, which is not listed there and other cities as well.

If anybody has a suggestion how to exterminate those spiders and their webs without killing the seedlings, then plz be generous and share :)

Hi neighbour!

I believe you should not have not problems growing mangos in Oran, as long as you don't live far from the sea. If you have the chance to go to Malaga, you could get grafted varieties that would fruit faster than seedlings. In Morocco the choice is limited (Keitt, Kent and Osteen). The only variety grown commercially here is Osteen.

You should have less fungal diseases than I do because air is dryer in Oran.

Good luck

The Red Mangoes in 2 pictures posted by GreeningTheDesert are Tommy Atkins.

Here is a link that might be useful: 3Point141's Photostream

Jalilu, thanks for letting me know that. I shall drop by Morocco in the summer, I just have no idea how can I import the plants, I mean how do the legislation & restrictions apply on that :/

Nevertheless, I shall give it a try and give it my best.

Can you suggest any Mango nurseries there plz? Especially if they have any websites and they list their prices online?

One last request if possible, how long have you been growing mangoes and would you add some pics of your trees/seedlings/mango-garden?
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Langra, thanks for pointing that out, as I believe Tommy Atkins is more tolerant for a harsher (colder/hotter) weather than let's say Keitt and co, hence it is worth the try anyway.

Hello GreeningTheDesert

I only know one nursery that sells a few mango varieties. It's a local branch of a Spanish nursery (http://www.viverosbrokaw.com/mango.html). The local contact name is Driss. His GSM number is +212.662.474.424. Usually, the available varieties are Keitt, Osteen and Kent. Osteen is commercially grown in Kenitra area. Taste wise Kent and Keitt are a much better than Osteen.

I purchased in 2012 5 grafted trees (2 year old): Keitt from the local Brokaw nursery, and Glenn, Ataulfo, Irwin and Nam Doc Mai from (http://frutalestropicales.com/category.php) in Málaga. They are all doing fine outdoor, except the NDM which has been attacked by a fungal disease.

I will send you pictures as soon as it stops raining.

With regards to legislation, there is no problem taking them out of Morocco. You should ask the Algerian authorities about this matter.

Cheers,

jalilu

I don't know how did I miss to see this, but I hope you can help me here. All my mangoes have died. The leaves blackened, wilted, curled, and fell, then the stem followed and blackened then dried up.

I'm not sure, I tried to water by distilled water only, applied sulfur, applied an anthracnose solution, a powdery Mildow one and all what comes to your mind. The eldest has lived for a year and 3 months and it he broke my heart.

What I've noticed in your pics, is that some leaves were blackening/burning the same way it occurred to me, so is it our weather or zone effect?

Can you tell us if any of those above managed to survive in Morocco?

Finally, are yours doing fine? If yes, then which varieties, as I'd like to start fresh with a better choice.

I hope you're doing fine.

Nice photos....i really like Mango tree and not only for its fruits :)

I had a Manila,GreenD,that did exactly like yours. I think the soil was too wet and cold too long in winter. I now plant them in a drier sunnier part of my yard. Its where a old large shed used to be. I wish I had that spot then...

I'm starting to think I should have watered less too. The fungi thing was just the aftermath of it. Next time, I will leave the soil to turn rock-hard, and we'll see.