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continuous flow digester

18 years ago

Two years ago I started a pound of worms in a small bin and thanks to the advice on this forum I've been able to grow that population to well over 100 pounds using large bins in my cellar (year-round) and outdoor windrows in the summer. I'm starting a small-scale commercial vermicomposting operation this summer and just finished my first continuous flow digester. (The pics are too big to load here but you can check them out at my blog http://greenmountainsoil.com/blog/ for the details)

I loaded it last night and am looking for my first commercial account. I plan to scale up this summer and build a few more. If anyone is considering building one of these bins and has questions let me know.

Kurt

Comments (16)

  • 18 years ago

    I'm sorry, I guess I don't understand - What are you selling? The worms, or the worm bin?

  • 18 years ago

    Neither, just showing what a continuous flow bin looks like for anyone who is interested in building one.

  • 18 years ago

    Thanks Kurtr, many people have shown the outside of a continuous system,
    but yours is the first I have seen the insides of. Looks like a good system,
    and well thought out. I like the cable idea for the "support" of your
    system, should allow for easier dis-loging of castings when it is time to
    scrape them off the bottom. I have been considering going continuous, and
    leaving the tote/bin system. I have three systems going atm. Probably around
    8 lbs of worms.

    Ron

  • 18 years ago

    Thanks Ron. I have to give credit to the designer, Dan Holcombe of Oregon Soil Corporation. He sells blueprints for these digesters that are available online (google OSCR and you should find it. OSCR stands for Oregon Soil Corporation Reactor). The total cost including lumber was around $150, mostly new materials, except for the cable which was my dog's old run. I've gotten tired of loading and reloading my big bins in the cellar, and am hoping these work as well as they say they do.
    Kurt

  • 18 years ago

    Kurt,
    I really want to build that digester. I have 8 bins going but need to find another system. Where did you get the blueprint? I am having a hard time finding it.

  • 18 years ago

    Well, Nelly guess I was real bored, or up for the challenge, but I believe this link will get ya what you want :)
    Ron

    Here is a link that might be useful: Link to the digester plans

  • 18 years ago

    Nelly,
    I got them here:
    http://www.vermico.com/harvesters.htm

    It was worth the $50. I'm building my second one this weekend.

    Let me know if you have any questions.
    Kurt

  • 18 years ago

    Hi All! Heres a link that is to Berkley in CA. its a copy of the OSCR large one.

    Here is a link that might be useful: Vermitopia bin plans.

  • 18 years ago

    That is not an OSCR bin but a derivative work of Oregon Soil Corporation's reactor and an infringement of the copyright on the design plans. Dan Holcombe has been a pioneer in the field of vermicomposting and deserves both the credit and the compensation for his work and ideas.

  • 18 years ago

    Hi Kurt I indicated copy which is correct because it is not a duplicate. It is a copy of the OSCR's flow thru design as is all flow thru bins/reactors be they round square or rectangular. Size or shape does not mean much when you are talking about function. The materials don't either as long as the function is the same basic function. The site says it is a copy of design and function made from different materials and small changes in design to accomodate the materials. But not function. Put compostables in top and let worms work it until its at the bottem harvesting level and harvest and remove from system.

  • 18 years ago

    Hi Kurt just so you know Dr. Clive Edwards Ohio State University is the inventer of the flow thru bin system. Heres a link to WD articals of review.

    Here is a link that might be useful: Medium flow thru review

  • 18 years ago

    This is the very definition of copyright infringement! Say you spent a lot of time and money developing a great new harvester for sorting worms from castings, and to recoup some of your costs and make a profit you sold explicit designs on how to build the harvester. Then someone comes along, modifies your design and then publishes it as open source information on the internet free of charge, complete with drawings and parts list. Would you feel ripped off? I would! The Vermitopia is a total knock off of the OSCR, right down to the 1/4" nylon rope and the size and placement of the vent holes. They guy who deserves the credit and compensation for this bin doesn't see a dime, and that's the problem I have with it.

    I have long been aware of the Edwards-Holcombe partnership, and while Edwards came up with the idea for a continuous flow system it's Holcombe who applied the research and holds the copyright on the OSCR.

  • 18 years ago

    Kurtr you are the one that posted your blog with pics and suggested that is what the unit looks like that you built from the instructions that are copywrited not I. I posted the sorces that either built similar units or reviewed the units. I have a set of drawings I made up with Autocad 2000 and Turbocad V.8 but have posted neither. I an giong to make the units from different materials with some amendments to the flowthru design. The Edwards design is open source and cannot be patented according to the resurch I have done. You can however copywrite drawings and bill of materials. I'm quite careful as to not quote copy protected material with out giving source and onership of such material. The Vermitopia bins are posted so anyone can use them. The reviews are posted so anyone can read them and use the info without fear of infringement rights. The problem with copywriting it only covers the official written plans If any modification occurs for any reason be it materials, size, shape and additions all work to remove it from a copywrite infringement.

  • 18 years ago

    from Vermitopia website: "The Vermitopia Worm Bin, (formerly known as the ASUCR Box), was designed by collective member Degge Hays back a few years. The design was modified from the OSCR box..."

    from OSCR blueprints: "Building an OSCR Vermiculture Compost Bin or a derivative design based upon these copyrighted designs without a license is illegal."

  • 18 years ago

    Kurtr! What happened to your pictures and the site blog you posted. I can not find any pics. Did someone tell you that you could not legally post them. I suspect thats what this discussion is really about. Educational facilities and Governments and their associations are exempted from copywrite infringement laws. Thats why the vermitopia bin plans are still on the internet. The WD doesn't give any particulars in the reviews. The pics printed or on line don't show the support for the bedding or the harvestring mechanism. they only report the value of work saved by the flowthru design. Thoes reasons help sell more copies of the design and build setup plans for the copywriten protected plans.

  • 18 years ago

    No, I've been pretty clear all along what my beef with the Vermitopia is, and I'd be very surprised if they have the blessing of Oregon Soil Corp. or Vermico, the reseller of the blueprints.

    At any rate, if anyone is building an OSCR and wants some pics of a finished bin just email me and I'll send them to you. There are no pics in the blueprints of a finished bin and it's helpful to see them when you are in the middle of construction.

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