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Please help! Need small tree for flower bed

18 years ago

I've been searching and searching for just the right tree for my flower bed which sets right next to my house (front entry). The bed itself is approximately 12ft deep by 20 ft long. I'd like to plant the tree (or shrub that I'd prune) approximately 5 ft out from the house (not sure if that's okay). I would like to plant it between my two front windows so that I can still see my window boxes. The bed is planted with part-shade to shade loving plants already. The bed faces west - so afternoon sun.

So, I'm interested in something that stays relatively small (8 and 10ft) and multi-season interest. I also tend to like things that have a maroon or variegated leaf colors.

Here are some ideas I have but I get easily confused as to which is just the right one (and my garden center is no help- they said to research the internet!):

Crabapple - but which one? I'd love to have birds come visit. I don't think the crabapples themselves would be a problem. How long do the apples stay on the tree? Since we have cedars on our property so I'm guessing rust would be an issue.

Purple smoke bush- it gets big but I've heard you can prune it. I'm not sure if it has more than one season of interest though. I like the leaf color.

Viburnum (perhaps grown as a standard or pruned up?)- there again I'm not sure which one. I currently have three blue muffin viburnums in this bed and they're not very interesting (I guess I need to pull one or two of them out and plant another viburnum to get fruit production, right?). Some of the viburnums do have pretty flowers and pretty leaves in fall.

Choke cherry or other dwarf fruiting tree.

Other???

I'm not a new gardener but I'm also not super familiar with growing plants in the upper midwest. I'm getting a little desperate finding the right thing.

Please, does anyone have any ideas?

Astrid

Comments (8)

  • 18 years ago

    What kind of "cedars" do you have? Common names can be a problem. Cedar-apple rust's alternate host is actually a juniper and not a cedar- particularly bad (in my experience) are Juniperus viginana (Eastern redcedar) and Juniperus scopulorum (Colorado/Western redcedar available locally i.e. 'Wichta Blue'). Some Arborvitae are referred to as whitecedars and are not alternate hosts. So depending on what you have, a crabapple may be ok disease-wise but I'm not up on my cultivars to suggest one.

    Smokebush- Cotinus coggygria 'Pop's Pink Champaigne' is light green (not purple) but would probably stay within your specs

    Viburnum- Viburnum cassenoides (Witherrod viburnum) would fit.

    If there is a microclimate in that spot a Japanese maple might do well.

    tj

  • 18 years ago

    Thanks. I agree common names aren't useful- it's just that I'm relatively new to the area and only know the trees by the names I've heard others give them. I believe they're Eastern red cedars. I live in a forest (well, mostly young trees) of a few cedars, lots of various locusts, black walnuts, hickory, aspen, cherry, mulberry, oak and maple. I did just purchase a blue chip juniper from the nursery to plant in this bed.

    We have three pear trees growing in our "meadow" area and they seem to have something on them- rust? We haven't sprayed them yet.

    Do the smokebush and Japanese maples have more than one season of interest? I'd love to have something I can see birds sitting on in the winter. I'm not sure what a Japanese maple here needs. I mean- what sort of microclimate do they need? The area is protected from strong winds as it sits next to the house and is also beside the front porch.

    Would posting a photo of the bed help?
    Astrid

  • 18 years ago

    Crabapple trees are beautiful when they bloom, but after that they don't look to nice. I planted a Viburnum dilatatum 'Henneke' it has tons of creamy white flowers in spring followed by berries. The glossy red berries are show stopping in fall and the songbirds love them. It gets 5-6' tall and 4-5' wide and its hardy to -30 Good Luck

  • 18 years ago

    Would either of the above mentioned viburnums help pollinate my Viburnum dentatum 'Blue Muffin'? The leaves on the viburnum aren't the most interesting (during the summer months).

    Are there any variegated viburnums that will grow in zone 4/5?
    Astrid

  • 18 years ago

    My favorite small tree is Serviceberry. It comes in tree and shrub form, and is usually multi-trunked. I have 3 trees and 2 shrubs in my beds. An internet search will give you the latin names for each type.
    They are small and light and airy in form.-Are among the first to bloom in Spring. Berries are coveted by birds, and they will hang on the tree like Xmas ornaments, just waiting for a ripening berry. The multi trunks are pretty and interesting, the leaves are just plain leaves, like any other tree. You will attract many birds to your yard by planting one or more of these trees. Pondy

  • 18 years ago

    I'm going to try adding some photos...

    and

    I'm thinking the tree/shrub should be in the area where the rusted metal flower bird feeder stands. I do have a Clethra alnifolia 'Ruby Spice' along with Wine and Roses Weigela. To the left of the photo (in the back corner) there are the blue muffin viburnums. I also have a pink Knock Out rose (mother's day gift) that is doing seemingly well.

    Am I wrong in thinking the bed needs something taller? The house sits so tall and it would be nice to have something that adds winter interest. I'm just not sure. I'm also used to plants/shrubs/trees growing very slowly but that is not the case here. I am terrible about remembering to give the plants some space to grow.

    I'm also thinking of moving out some Little Princess spirea that are located at the front of the bed. They're okay when they're in bloom but they're boring when not. I'm wondering what to replace them with (Magic Carpet spirea?).

    Any thoughts?
    Astrid

  • 18 years ago

    Astrid, your beds look wonderful, and proportional to their width too. If you want something taller to offset the tallness of your home you will have to go out quite far into the lawn. Then you may want a larger tree. One that is airy enough to allow lots of sun, but tall enough to add substance and scale to your large home. When I was deciding about trees for my home, I went across the street and took pictures, made multiple copies and then used colored pencils to try out different tree heights and shapes. I first installed a skyscraper locust. Later had it moved to the side yard and installed a River birch. Much more suited to my ranch home.
    Maybe the Landscape design forum would have more ideas for you if you include your photos. They are great people over there. Pondy

  • 18 years ago

    Hmmm....I am actually surrounded by trees- black walnut, locust, oak, maple, hickory, etc. They are about 40 feet (or more?) away from the house. I do have one black walnut that sits closer to the house. I had just thought a SMALL tree or taller shrub might add more interest to that bed. Maybe I was just mistaken.

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