Fire ants of the SE U.S. are typically thought of in those situations, but they are reddish.

It would be useful to know your location.

Hi,
I'm in the Appalachian mountain range about mid point.
Zone 6
I am presently trying to capture some ants to get some pics.
So hopefully I will be able to post pics soon. I will probably put some under a magnifying glass and take the pic.
I observed the ants today from a distance and they looked reddish brown. But what was going after me the other day looked decidedly black.
I cant explain that unless ants are not uniformly colored.
I know very little about Myrmecology.

It might be a good idea for you to call on your local University Extension office to see if they've been bombarded with calls about biting ants in recent months.

Fire ants have steadily been making their way outside of southern locations so that's a possibility.....it wouldn't surprise me.

Hi,
This is the best pic I could take with my camera. I took the pic at dusk because it seems the ants are not as aggressive. During the mid day i can not get closer then 6 feet from the nest before getting bitten.
I put some pancake syrup in a open jar close to the nest last night and expected it to be full of ants and not even one ant ??
However a cricket did get in the bottle which seemed weird because he had to get past the ants to do it.
I looked closely for a stinger on a captured ants bottom and did not see any.
They are definitely not carpenter ants from what I can see and much bigger than Argentine ants.
thanks for any idea's

The picture is not going to help, but thanks for the effort.

Were you getting bitten (from mouthparts), stung (from the rear of the ant) or both? Knowing this can help determine the type of ant involved.

Fire ants bite and sting, the sting producing the lasting pain, other ants just bite.

I believe it was the mouth parts.
I did not have any lasting pain.
I know that they have found fire ants here before but according to the web site i was reading there was no established colonies.
I think Camponotus chromaiodes ( red carpenter ant ) may be this ant. I am very familiar with black carpenter ants but do not encounter the red ones. The black carpenter ants seem much more benign then their red counterparts although this is just my personal observation and may not be true.

You may be on the right track; fire ants would seem to be ruled out.

Even tiny insects can cling to the skin and dig in, very irritating, especially in numbers.