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Another Recomendation

15 years ago

I have been racking my brain and I figured I would ask some experts.

First, I am from East Texas...and I am very proud of my brand new greenhouse LOL! It is opening a world of opportunities for growing.

For this upcoming season I have the following on the list.

Brandywine Suddith-- I am growing about 25 of these this winter in my greenhouse to see how it works out.

So far the plants are going pretty good but still a couple months out before I can start eating the fruit.

I had some success before with a few plants and the taste was good. That was my first year ever growing so I made lots of mistakes but ended up with a few BW Suddiths none the less... From what I recall they are not heavy producers. I only had a couple of plants and they had a big setback early on (froze the top of the plant)...so I only wound up with a handful of tomatoes.

In any case it seems worth it to try them again.

Cherokee Purple-- I want to try this

Paul Robeson-- Same as cherokee purple

Green Giant-- Same as Paul Robeson

What I am looking for is one more slicing tomato. Red or Pink... preferrably its later season because generally from my experience later season ones have better flavor. I am though open to suggestions.

I am looking for good taste and preferrably a heavier producer than Brandywine. Truth be told it is hopefully going to be an alternative to BW Suddith...that way if BWS really does pitter out for production I will have alternatives that will give more fruit.

I grew Giant Belgium before and didn't like it so much.

Same for Early Girl.

Big Beef was moderate but way better than anything from the grocery store.

I grew Azoychyka as well and it was ok for a yellow.

I would also consider some types of Oxheart tomatoes too provided the taste is there.

Long story short, I just don't wanna be stuck out with no tomatoes (just in case) so I want to pick one more bigger balanced flavor slicing type tomato.

I have grown lots of cherry tomatoes but this year I am skipping all that and putting my energy into growing a bigger set of tomatoes.

Comments (10)

  • 15 years ago

    Check with your state's Extension Service. They know varieties suited for your area.

    Mike

  • 15 years ago

    I don't think the extensions are very good at recommending heirloom and other connoisseur-type tomatoes, at least not my extension. They can help you with the commercial varieties and well known hybrids but that is about it.

    I grew a potato leaved Brandywine from Park Seed last year that was such a late season tomato that it got too hot here before I got much fruit. I ended up with lots of flowers but the flowers never set fruit - blossom drop.

    But if I would have planted them earlier, the plants would have produced decently. The fruits were large, red and very good tasting. Had some cracking but otherwise great for slicing. I still have some seeds from them, but decided to try other varieties this year.

    This year I am growing 3 jersey tomatoes - Moreton (F1), Ramapo (F1) and Rutgers (OP) and one canning tomato - Marglobe (OP).

  • 15 years ago

    This year I am growing 3 jersey tomatoes - Moreton (F1), Ramapo (F1) and Rutgers (OP) and one canning tomato

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    I do think you mean to say that you bought your Moreton F1's and Ramapo F1's, newly reintroduced, from Rutgers, and yes Rutgers OP was bred by Rutgers as was the original Ramapo F1 but Moreton Hybrid as it's known was bred by Harris Seeds in Rochester, NY, many years ago.

    We NYS folks jsut have to speak up for out NYS bred varieties since they aren't "joisy" maters. LOL

    Actually I don't grow that many hybrids, but do keep up and I still think the best tasting, best producing hybrids might include the following:

    Harris ones

    Moreton Hybrid
    Jet Star F1
    Supersonic F1

    .....and Ramapo as well, both as the F1 and as the OP that I dehybridized from the F1 when Ramapo F1 was no longer being sold. Many folks are now on the F7 and more from that OP Ramapo and even a couple of Jersey commercial farmers say they can't tell the difference.

    Carolyn

  • 15 years ago

    I agree completely that the Ext agents as well as the Master Grdeners who work for them as part of their training are not the best places to go for advice for OP varieties.

    Alamo, there are many many threads here at GW about varieties that folks in your area have grown and liked and have done well.

    The same obtains at the other place where you post and there's even a dedicated TX thread there. No, I can't name it but you know what I mean b'c if other message sites are mentioned here one can be banned,

    Large Red or Pink slicers?

    Reds

    Neves Azorean Red
    Red Penna
    Chapman
    Aker's West Virginia
    Cuostralee
    Milka's Red Bulgarian
    Gianinni
    Ludmilla's Red Plum
    Russian Bogatyr

    ...and many many more, all grown by some of my TX friends

    Pinks

    Large Pink Bulgarian
    Omar's Lebanese
    TEnnessee Britches
    Sanddul Moldovan
    Crnkovic Yugoslavian
    Lincoln-Adams

    ....and many many more

    Hearts ( I don't call them oxhearts, LOL)

    Danko, red
    Linnie's Oxheart, red
    Indiana Red
    Russian # 117
    Wes, red
    German Red Strawberry, red
    Fish Lake Oxheart, red
    Reif Redheart
    Bobbie, red
    Hays', red

    Kosovo, pink
    Nicky Crain, pink
    Anna Maria's Heart, pink
    Anna Russian, pink
    Tsar-Kolokol ( Tsar of Bells). pink
    Serdtse Buivola ( Heart of the Buffalo), pink
    Ukrainian HEart ( TNMUJ), pink

    ....and many many more

    Hearts are what I want to grow, always, b'c I think they have the best tastes around in many cases although the production may not always be as great as some non-hearts.

    But I grow tomatoes for taste, primarily, so there you go.

    Carolyn

  • 15 years ago

    Carolyn, newbie to tomatos here. Question - I have heard that "hearts" don't do well in the south, in the heat. I would love to grow one, but is there any specific heart that does better on warmer zones than others? I live in Oklahoma, where heat is just a normal part of the climate in deep summer here.

    Appreciate it. Since the OP wants to grow a heart, I just would like to know how you feel about it. Possible or impossible.

    Susan

  • 15 years ago

    Susan, I have tomato friends in many areas where the summers are hot and sometimes humid, and you're the first person who has ever mentioned that they don't do well in the heat. ( smile)

    Of the ones I listed above I'm pretty sure that every single one of them has been grown successfully in zones 8 and 9.

    What's important is to get any variety started and outside before the scorching summer heat hits so that the fruits have a chance to set.

    If you want to try just one perhaps Danko might be a good bet b'c it's a semi-det and has worked well for lots of folks.

    Carolyn

  • 15 years ago

    Wow, thanks for the quick response, Carolyn, and I will look for Danko.

    Susan

  • 15 years ago

    Susan, whenever you want to find a seed source for a variety I highly suggest you use Tania Tomato Data base.

    I've linked to the page for Danko below . The picture shown is not a good one, IMO.

    I suggst Gleckler's or Sandhill to start with for seeds.

    On that page if you go to the top left and click on HOme Page then you can see what kinds of searches you can do for various tomato traits.

    For simply finding a variety I use the alphabetical way, which you can also click on to find what you want.

    Carolyn

    Here is a link that might be useful: Danko

  • 15 years ago

    I left out Victory Seed as a source as well. And of course you canm also look at Carol Knapp's source as well/

    I know the owners of all four sources, actually, and if you don't know some of those seed sources, just in general, I think you should.( smile)

    Carolyn

  • 15 years ago

    I live over in Dallas, so our soil and rainfall are quite different.
    I've had pretty good luck with Marianna's Peace(very tasty) and I've heard good things about Pruden's Purple(actually a pink, 1884, and Neves Azorean Red. My favorite is Indian Stripe, which is nearly identical to Cherokee Purple, but earlier and more productive in my experience.

    Pete

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