GE Mongram Advantium is a decent choice, if you're considering GE Check out below.

Here is a link that might be useful: Advantium

That was exactly my thought process. I wanted to get the MW off the counter, and I feel that a small oven will cover 90% of the oven requirements that we have. I do have the gas oven in the range but I don't expect to use it a lot. We would rather use the Green Egg for most fish and meat anyway. I got the Miele Chef Speed Oven. I am looking forward to using it! I seriously considered getting a range top and having no full size oven at all but in the end thought it would be prudent to have one full size oven. (sort of like the necessity of having one bath tub in the house even if everyone prefers showers).

We have the GE Advantium paired with a GE Profile wall oven and did not think we would use the speed cook that often. Well it turns out we use it a lot. Played with it at the beginning and felt at ease and now it is essential part of our every day cooking. We purchased the 240 v model because of the power and size of the oven which is 30 inches. Other models we felt the interior was too small.

Exterior width of the Advantium is 30", unless you get a 120v model (which doesn't work so good, AFAIK); the Miele is 24", so a bit smaller.

I'm getting a speed oven for much the same reason. It will be both my microwave and my "second" oven, although I expect it to get used a lot more than my "first" oven (which may be wall or range, not decided yet -- 6 weeks until tear-out).

I got the Miele Chef - the not-automated one for this reason. I am liking it a lot! It's just sitting on a small table awaiting the "real" kitchen, but it works great. Trouble with the non-fancy version is: the manual is non-existent and using it is *very* confusing! I absolutely have not worked out how to use this thing - in fact that's what I got on here for, to ask a question about just that! Only ... I just stuck some potatoes in w/o piercing them, so better sun after that disaster-in-the-making first! :)

You should be able to get the manual for your unit online. If it's no longer available from Miele, there are sites that specialize in manuals of older appliances.

If it's crazy, I'm nuts, too.

Best value woul be the Kuppersbush speed oven, micro, broil, convection and a grewat mix ofcombo's retail $1529. way less than Miele

I've linked below a thread about consolidating the cooking appliances. It gradually leads to a consensus that there ARE many good reasons to have one small or medium-small oven built in like the speed oven you are considering.

Most people who enter a forum like this one or the kitchens forum are afraid of their own shadow and need a lot of handling. It's a compliment to you amphibious, to mention this and add that your ability to think for yourself is so well developed that you won't need more than a nudge to confirm to you what you have already figured out. ( I'll bet you are able to pick investments that you hold for years without concern for the latest news about the investment or the sector. )

A 24" oven has a lot of useable space. One GW member has posted often that her large cookie pans fit her 24" Miele perfectly without waste space on the sides, and that these same pans would go into any larger oven with more space on the sides but no advantage in terms of "fitting more things in".

My cookie pans are 16.75" by 14" and they fit into my 24" oven.

I have a turkey roaster, an enameled oval thing.
It's 17.75" by 12.5" with handles not on the ends.
It fits my 24" oven.
Even though it's longest dimension is greater than the long side of the rectangular cookie sheet, it fits.

One day, at resale, I can leave the turkey roaster in the oven so that buyers can see that it fits. Perception problem solved, if they have the willingness to believe what their eyes show them.

Hth

Here is a link that might be useful: Future of Counter Top Cooker Appliances

Thanks for the pointer to the Kuppersbusch speed oven, Guadalupe. I do not recall ever reading about that one before, but it certainly seems to have all of the functionality that my Miele possesses at about half price. It is 240V and requires a 30A circuit, a bit more than what my Miele requires.

I did read through the operator's manual and confirm that the oven does have a broiler element. Only they call it the "Griller" instead of the broiler. I would definitely be looking at one of these were I to need to replace my Miele.

I have a Miele speed oven and love it because I can use it as a microwave, oven or broiler. I have not yet used it in combination mode and may never need to, but I still consider it a very worthwhile splurge for its flexibility.

As far as using it as an only oven, if I didn't have a larger oven, besides giving up the ability of cooking something that simply demanded more space I would also give up the ability of using both at the same time. That would be a big bummer for me on occasion. Also, if I wanted to use the MW function immediately after using it as an oven or broiler, I might want to wait a bit to let the oven walls or broiler element cool down. Something to consider.

Jon

Crazy? No, insanely practical is more like it. I'm in the process of a remodel and I'm consolidating too. I'm getting an Advantium OTR that won't be mounted over the range at all. It will be mounted over a counter in a convenient location. I'm putting in 15" uppers, so I'll have a built-in look. I know I will use it often, because I currently use my separate MW and toaster oven all the time. Why? No preheating and convenient. I will still have gas ovens, but those will be for larger scale and longer cooking like braises and roasts. I will also use the larger ovens for bread and pizza because I always keep a stone in the oven.

What's the drawback? From what I understand, making toast. But that's an easy sacrifice for me. If making toast ever becomes an issue, I'll just buy a small toaster for the counter if I have to. You also risk losing both functions if the single appliance breaks. But that's not a concern of mine.

amphibious: you ask such interesting questions. We too had consolidation as one of our criteria when we went with the Miele Master Chef last fall and we don't regret it - it's now our most used cooking appliance!

I've condidered the same thing many times. Not crazy at all; many one- or two-bedroom apartment dwellers would be fine with nothing but a high-speed oven and a 2-burner cooktop as their main cooking devices.

If you're not going to use the speed-oven feature often, this is one time where I would recommend the 120v version of the GE Advantium, which is available in a 27"w wall oven that mounts in a cabinet. Can't recall if this has a shelf in it (which would obviously make it more usable as a main oven), or if the interior is any roomier than the 30"w versions. The microwave and convection oven modes are almost as good in the 120V Advantiums as the 240V ones; it's the speed-cook function that suffers greatly.