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Question About Architects

19 years ago

Hello All,

We went to an architect over a year ago for our home plan. In fact, we did not have a general contractor at that time either. One question that never occurred to us and was never mentioned by him was that of the building site grade. I'm curious; do architects normally ask for a map (I'm stumbling for technical words here) of the site with the grade marked. Our architect mentioned he went by our site once and looked at it but that was all.

We ran into some serious issues because the grade was too steep. We now have an unexpected $30,000+ retaining wall. The County said that it should have been on the house plans and drawn up by the architect--not that the results would have changed. I was wondering if we should have anticipated this or do architects assume that the grade issues will be addressed by the home owner and/or G.C.?

Thanks for your input.

Teresa

Comments (6)

  • 19 years ago

    We are meeting with one this coming Friday and they did mention that a topological map would be good to have and we may have to have a survey to get that. We didn't do a separate survey when buying the lot from the full survey that was done. We didn't think a topological one existed, but just got one in the mail this week. Very timely as we can take that with us too.

  • 19 years ago

    I always provide the architect/designer with topographical survey. Since the architect says he went by the site, you would think he would have noticed the steep slopes. But since you say the results wouldn't have changed, you're not really out anything.

  • 19 years ago

    Thank you Lyfia. So, now that you have assisted with the terminology, I should rephrase my question to ask if it is standard operating procedure for an architect to request a topological map? And, if so, how critical is it to the final plans?

    Teresa

  • 19 years ago

    An owner is normally responsible for providing a site plan with grade contours prepared by a surveyor. An architect shouldn't have to guess about grade changes.

    If a site is unusually steep the architect should have told you he/she needed that information after visiting the site. Without it I don't know how the architect could have shown final grades on the plans, elevations, and sections. It's kind of hard to omit a level change that would require a $30,000 retaining wall.

    At this point in a discussion about an architect, it usually occurs to me to ask if the so called "architect" was actually registered to practice architecture in your state? Was he/she asked to provide full services? Was site design by others? Was a structural engineer involved?

  • 19 years ago

    Our city won't issue a building permit without a topographical map of the property that extends a bit over onto adjacent properties.

  • 19 years ago

    Thank you everyone, and I was hoping Mightyanvil would also reply. Yes, the architect is a fully licensed architect, and was asked to provide full services. No site design was done until the County said to stop because of the grade. This happened on Day 1 of excavation. We attempted to work with the architect for about a week and then threw in the towel and hired a structural engineering firm with whom we could work directly. After the wall was built, fully approved and inspected by the engineering firm, we started on the house (again) four weeks after the original Day 1.

    We have moved past it and our ICF walls are now finished and filled with concrete. Things should move quickly now. This input is helpful as I feel that we probably could not have known what was required. And, if this post helps others, with or without an architect, than that is a good thing.

    Teresa