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TINY powder room....need some help!

15 years ago

Our new house has an extremely small powder room... 4'4" x 4'4" interior space. It will have a 24" door. My question for those that know more than me... can I fit a toilet & pedestal sink on the same wall? I have looked at corner pedestal sinks, but would really like a regular one if it could fit without being so cramped. Thanks for any advice.

Comments (14)

  • 15 years ago

    I'm no expert, but I tend to think it won't be very possible, or certainly very easy. I have a very small half bath too - narrower than your's but a little longer and my sink is on the opposite wall from my toilet.

    It's very difficult to find a pedestal sink less than 20 inches wide, and most toilets are about 20 inches wide too. Allowing for door clearance, I think it's probably too tight.

    You might want to check out the Whitehaus LU004 wall mounted sink though - that's what I ended up getting because it's 17 1/2 x 12 3/4. Another option I had was a Crane sink, I think it was called the Squire 1477? I think that was 14x12. These two sinks don't look as obviously miniature as the corner sinks and don't have the side mounted faucets a lot of the extra small sinks do. Whitehaus had a couple of other really nice looking,small sinks that were a bit out of my budget.

    My issue, even more than width of the sink, was projection from the wall because I couldn't find many sinks narrow enough to allow for door clearance. I really wanted a pedestal sink too, but even the "jr" models were all much too big. I did finally find one that might have fit, but unfortunately my computer crashed a while back and I've lost the link and forgotten the name.

  • 15 years ago

    In my county in California code requires 30" width for a toilet; 15" each side of center. That would leave you 22" width for the vanity. I just googled "small bathroom vanity" and found quite a few that were that width. You could also get one custom made. There are also code requirements for how many inches you need in front of the edge of the toilet seat. Your code may be different, but you should look into it.

  • 15 years ago

    I think that's plenty of room! As astridh noted, 30" is about minimum for a toilet. the toilet itself is often only about 15" wide. There are several "space saving" toilets on the market now. I think one is a squished version of the Cadet, which people seem to like. (I just looked it up and its the American Standard Compact Cadet which measures 17.25" x 28.25") We opted for the Toto Aquia III, which is comfort-height and lovely, but still compact. It's styling makes it seem even more compact. I believe its about 14.75" wide x 27.5" deep.

    There are plenty of small "normal" pedestal sinks that would fit in the remaining 22".

  • 15 years ago

    Your powder room is about the same size as mine - tight! Don't forget that in addition to the side-to-side building code requirement of 30", you're required to have a minimum space requirement in front of the toilet, which I believe is 24". (Local codes may be even stricter.) Since you have only 52" to play with, you'll need a toilet that is no more than 28" front-to-back. Unless you get a compact or a wall-hung toilet, you'll probably need to get a round-front.

    If you prefer an elongated bowl and are looking for a traditional-style toilet, the Kohler Memoirs one-piece would be a good choice because it's very compact and narrow (27 3/4" L x 17 1/2" W x 28 3/8" H for the Classic model, which has a narrower tank top than the Stately). It has an elongated bowl but fits in the same space as a round-front. Only problem is that it's pricey.

    As for sinks, I second Sandsonik's suggestion that you consider a wall-hung. That would give you some floor space for a wastebasket and would make the room seem less crowded. Also, there are small recessed vanities with sinks that extend forward, which would give you some hidden storage. If you can, stop by a bath showroom -- you'll be amazed at the options.

  • 15 years ago

    Ours is that size and we put in an Toto Aquias III as well and a wall mount sink - nowhere to put anything with a pedestal. I bought the wallmount from moderndanish.com and was really pleased with it. They are both on the same wall. We're putting a full mirror from the ceiling down to the sink to give it a feeling of more space.

  • 15 years ago

    If you decide to go with a vanity rather than a pedestal sink, both Home Depot and Lowe's have an 18 inch one. Just one, LOL. There actually are a lot of options once you start checking out all the plumbing sites online, just be sure to make sure you have door clearance!

  • 15 years ago

    You can get small pedestal sinks that will fit your powder room and also fit code. This place has a bunch of them.

    Here is a link that might be useful: pedestal sinks

  • 15 years ago

    Thanks so much to everyone for your ideas. I will certainly be checking out small vanities, and looking for a pedestal sink that will work. Fortunately, we are building out (way out) in the country where their aren't any codes. I appreciate all the input!

  • 15 years ago

    The other thing you might want to consider for your bathroom is some kind of tile. I write about kitchens and baths all the time, and one of the things that most interests me is the absolutely mind-blowing things that can be done with tile. Last month I posted what was probably the thirtieth or fortieth blog on this subject (thereÂs a link below). ThereÂs a company in Italy that makes tile that actually look a bit like lava flows from a volcano! But what blew my mind all the more was the elegance with which this concept was evoked. And the many things that can be done with it.

    Working in a space that small, you will, after youÂve installed the toilet and sink have a very small bathroom. But you knew that when you started. So, what happens next? If you simply install a "standard" toilet and vanity, you will be left with a nondescript room that is much too small. On the other hand you can use something like the Volcanic Designer Tiles I wrote aboutÂor, quite frankly, about a bazillion other tile designs that are available these daysÂto transform that dinky little room into something that is a real conversation piece. All it takes is a momentÂs boldnessÂand some slick tile!

    Here is a link that might be useful: Cabinet & Furniture Trends & Information

  • 15 years ago

    We had a similar spacing for one of our properties, and although there were options for smaller single vanities at Lowes and Home Depot, we found our best option at an online store. It is 24" wide, which should fit through your door perfectly. We were happy. Just check your code requirements for your area with plumbing and fixtures.

    Here is a link that might be useful: Small Single Vanity

  • 15 years ago

    A 24" wide vanity is too wide for your space. The most you can fit in is 22" wide.

  • 15 years ago

    True about a 22.5 inch wide vanity for more room and too crowded for a 24 inch. At a kitchen and bath showroom the cabinet lines can be customized so you buy a sink base and a wall panel and get the size slightly modified and get it 18 deep. I found an undermount sink by Nameeks online and still have 4 inches on each side of the undermount for counter space. Thus my vanity is the finish color I want and has the countertop I picked all for the same price as many of the vanities I see online (other than Home Depot types).

  • 15 years ago

    It must be able to be done. I have an even tinier powder room (34"x45"), and have a toilet and sink along the 34" side. We bought the house with this room already done. The toilet is from Kallista of England. From a quick Google search, they have a toilet that's 16.5" wide. I think mine is 16" wide. I don't know what make the tiny sink we have is, but it has a logo of a sailing ship. I know that IKEA has a 45 cm wide Ann sink that's wall mounted. I don't know if it's available for purchase now, but you can find images of it online. Have fun with your small space!

  • 15 years ago

    I don't know if this is too late to help, but I have finally found a great site for VERY small pedestal sinks. I have been on a search for a small sink that is petite in both directions, especially the depth. Hope this helps.

    Here is a link that might be useful: small pedestal sinks