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Is $10k enough?

14 years ago

Help me spend $10k. We need:

1. Refrigerator with freezer drawer (largest possible full-depth)

2. MW (I'm looking at the drawers because it's easier to place it in the kitchen layout)

3. Rangetop (we want to spend more here and go high-end)

4. Vent hood insert (we are ok spending more here too)

5. DW (I think a drawer will work best for us like the fisher and paykel double drawer)

6. Double oven

7. Washer/Dryer

Is our $10k enough? including tax? LOL. I guess we can try to see if we can spend more if it means better quality appliances.

Comments (26)

  • 14 years ago

    This is what I did, I went to the AJ Madison website and started shopping and adding things to my cart. Where items didn't have prices disclosed, I just added items in the same price range. I found out very quickly what I needed to spend to get what I wanted. In some ways it was really enlightening.

  • 14 years ago

    Email me and I can get you tech and price details. Good prices and lots of choices.

  • 14 years ago

    1. Fridge 3K 31 cu ft French Door
    2. MW drawer 800
    3. Rangetop 3K
    4. Vent 1K for under cabinet hood, 2K for chimney hood, 3K+ for insert and cabinetry hood
    5. DW 1K
    6. Double oven 3K
    7. W&D 2K average for decent FL

    You're at about 14K-17K for "average" appliance prices, depending on what type of vent you choose. You can always choose to shop scratch and dent, or downgrade some things, but you are going to be beyond tight to get everything at the level you are talking about for under 10K.

    The good news is that the best deals of the year are on Black Friday. The bad news is that there are usually very limited number of the great deals. Get out now and bring some cookies to the salesmen at the various appliance departments in the stores. Give them a list of what you'd like, and tell them there will be more cookies in it for them if they can get you one of their Black Friday deals. Sometimes the sales start a couple of weeks or the week before, and without the crowds, so you might be able to get ahead of the game.

  • 14 years ago

    Thank you all!

    live_wire_oak.... Ouch! lol. Any brand recommendations? Items #3 and #4 are the ones we want to spend more on.

    On #4, so the $3k+ for insert AND cabinetry hood? How about just the insert? How much should I expect to spend? Or is it better to buy the insert and cabinetry hood together? My worry with that is matching my cabinets.

    Thanks for the Black Friday tip! :)

  • 14 years ago

    I *love* my Jenn-Air cabinet-depth fridge. It has a frezer drawer, and cost about $1700.

    http://www.jenn-air.ca/en/Products/JBL2088WEM.html

    Most of my neighbors have much "fancier" fridges, but I get a lot of sincere compliments on mine, even from designers and contractors who come into the house.

    Besides being awesome in terms of function, it's so sleek...the filtered water dispenser in inside the fridge, and the icemaker is in the freezer (no freezer-door ice dispenser).

    Can't recommend it highly enough, and will save you some $$.

    As far as cooktop, I have the Kenmore Pro 36" slide-in and it's a workhorse. It has 7 different burner size options. Never a ring of flame larger than the pot. Absolutely recommend it. Retails for just under $2000.

    http://www.sears.com/kenmore-pro-36-34-slide-in-gas-cooktop-3050/p-02230503000P

    (Scroll down a little bit to see the pic)

    I've never had a problem with either of these in the 3 years I've had them.

  • 14 years ago

    I also have the JA cabinet-depth and am happy with it and price compared to other models is excellent.

  • 14 years ago

    Got an email alert from Home Depot this a.m. and they have already started their Black Friday sales and have an LG French Door 31 cubic foot refrigerator on sale for 2K. That would cross off one thing from your list. If you went with one of their $700 DW's instead of the less versatile and LOUDER dish drawers, that would save you $500. They also have a good deal on a LG front load steam pair in grey or white for $699 each.

  • 14 years ago

    We spent.
    $1800 Gas stove (NXR)
    $2200 Fridge (Kenmore Elite/Samsung)
    $350 Microwave (LG)
    $650 DW (Kenmore Elite)
    $1730 Washer Dryer (LGWT5101H)

    That is $6730 and we got VERY nice everything, did not feel at all that we scrimped on anything and very happy with them all.

    Will be spending another $3500 on Granite counter tops soon and we are done.
    So we pretty much spent just over $10K on a total kitchen remodel, including refinishing our cabinets.
    So spent just a wee bit over $10K including Granite COuntertops.
    So is $10K enough for just appliances?

    WAY more than enough.

    Spending more does not necessarily mean you are getting anything any better.

  • 14 years ago

    I agree with the above poster...when I saw the quote from one of the replies "...14K-17K for average appliance prices", I was thinking someone has lost their grip on reality.

    Most people's interest in high end appliances is all about snob appeal and keeping up with the Jones I think....

  • 14 years ago

    I think the fridge will be under $2k--full depth models are cheaper than counter depth.

    Do browse AJMadison. I don't know about their actual business, but even my local B&M appliance store uses their website as a reference.

  • 14 years ago

    GreenDesigns... thanks for the tip. I'm highly considering the LG Refrigerator and front loaders.

    I did visit an appliance store yesterday that carries higher end appliances. The salesman said he can get the BS for me and they would service it too. The CC is out of my list since nobody sells it in my area.

    How does this new budget looks?

    New Budget = $15k

    LG Refrigerator = $2400 (with tax)
    LG Front Loaders = $1550 (with tax)
    Sharp MW Drawer = $800
    Double Oven (maybe an Elecrolux) = $3500
    Dishwasher (Meile/Bosch/Asko/F&P) = $1500
    Rangetop (BS/Wolf) = $3500 ???
    Vent (don't know yet) = $3500 ???

    That comes to $16,750. Ouch! That's still over. Maybe I'm over-estimating on some of these?

    How do I get an idea on the cost of BS rangetop? I can't find any price for it online. On the vent, not sure what to get. :(

  • 14 years ago

    New to the forums and Hello.

    We're about to embark on a remodel that involves moving the kitchen to a new addition. Good news is I get a new kitchen + a third bedroom/second bath. Bad news is it's going to be a painful three to four month process.

    It's a lot of work and a lot of money so I'm trying to save wherever I can while getting the things I really would like to have. I've been focused on what I want first and brand second.

    I say, depending on where you live and if you like to shop - you can get your costs down. I did and saved 70% on my counter depth panel-ready Kitchen Aid French door fridge and a Jenn Air Pro 30" dual fuel range. Saved 55% on my GE Monogram panel ready dishwasher - all at the Sears Outlet, of all places. Fortunately it was next door to the Nordstrom Rack and a couple miles from the house so I stopped by often to see what they had.

    I think I found a Jenn Air vent online at a lesser savings, but total it up and I'm ahead.

    It took months of "stalking", but I got things I liked for prices I was willing to pay. Even though I was flexible about my brands, I didn't purchase without any research.

    I really don't like stainless and already knew my choice of range would be....so I'll take a little weird sticky-outy paneled fridge to avoid any more stainless in the kitchen.

    If you only have $10k, then find a way to only spend $10k

  • 14 years ago

    1929Spanish... Thanks. I wish there's a Sears outlet closeby. The closest one is 2-3hrs away. :(

    I think we can spend more, but who doesn't want to spend less? :)

  • 14 years ago

    I have Electrolux double ovens, the non-Icons and I love 'em. They are great performers, bake evenly, roast nicely and I like the roll out racks for heavy things. If you are considering the Icons, be sure to measure the insides and compare that with the non-Icons. When I was shopping a few years ago, the Icons were a bit shallower than the non-Icons. That ruled them out for me, and saved me a bunch of money, too, because the Non-Icons were less $. AND, if you time it right you can get a pretty nice rebate on them. I also bought a huge french door fridge from E'lux, also with a rebate. Reviews on that are mixed, but it's given good service for the year and a half we've had it.

    I also have a Miele dishwasher and it does a terrific job. In my household, we run that thing at least twice a day and more on weekends--it's worth it for something that works as well as this dishwasher does. I got lucky and found the model I'd wanted on clearance, it had been discontinued.

    For those who are critical of other people's budgets, making accusations of snobbery and 'keeping up with the Jones' mentality, I'm glad you happy with your choices and stayed within the budget you have. However, If a person is able to, or chooses to spend more than you did, I don't see any reason to insult them for it. People that love to cook might allocate more budget to kitchen appliances, because sometimes you actually DO get more power or better performance for the extra dollars spent. Everyone needs to make their choices based on what's important to them, and I see no reason to be nasty about it.

    Cj

  • 14 years ago

    Just heard the commercial today for Lowe's. They have the 4 door Whirlpool french door fridge on sale for $1398! My buddy that works there can't even buy them for that!

  • 14 years ago

    You can do a whole kitchen of appliances for 2K if that's your budget and you don't expect anything but the lowest priced builder's grade function from them. My comment about "average" prices was based on the OP's wish list which includes several higher priced choices, as is her right to include if that is what she is willing to pay for. 15K is certainly not average priced appliances, but it is the average price for the list of appliances on the OP's wish list. The OP didn't ask about a top mount refrigerator and a $300 coil top range. She asked about the largest capacity fridge with a freezer drawer. That limits it to the 32 cubic foot GE made by Samsung, the Samsung, the LG and the Kenmore made by LG. That's it for that category. She didn't ask about a different category, but yes, there are 25 cubic foot french door refrigerators available from around $1500 and up. And anyone who asks about a range top and ovens instead of a range already knows they are in the 6K territory even though they could buy two 30" "regular" ranges and put them side by side for an 8 burner 2 oven configuration for MUCH less.

    If the OP wants suggestions on how to change her picks to reduce her price, she'll say so. In the mean time, if you have a lesser budget, don't let jealousy sharpen your tongue or else the person with an even lesser budget may think you are profligate with your money as well.

  • 14 years ago

    Samsung RF4287HARS $1800
    JD Powers 5 years running best FD Fridge.

    http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Samsung+-+28.0+Cu.+Ft.+French+Door+Refrigerator+-+Stainless-Steel/9790988.p?id=1218175547555&skuId=9790988&cmp=RMX&ref=06&loc=01&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=9790988

    Bosch Vision 500 series dlx wfvc6450uc $612.96
    with onboard heater which,unlike LG,engages in all cycles.

    http://www.kitchentradition.com/_CGI/MODEL?KEY=BOSCH:WFVC6450UC&gdftrk=gdfV2934_a_7c137_a_7c4876_a_7cBOSCH_a3a_WFVC6450UC


    Bosch Vision 500 Series DLX WTVC6530UC electry dryer $848
    With possible exception of Miele most water/electric efficient front loaders sold in USA.

    http://www.rainbowappliance.com/WTVC6530UC.html?utm_medium=shoppingengine&utm_source=googlebase&cvsfa=673&cvsfe=2&cvsfhu=57545643363533305543

    SHARP Insight 24" Microwave Drawer Stainless KB6024MS $415

    Manufacture refurbished comes with 1 month warranty with option for one year warranty.I have one so do several people on this board.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/SHARP-Insight-24-Microwave-Drawer-Stainless-KB6024MS-/190569126778?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0amp;hash=item2c5ece1b7a

    Miele Futura Dimension Series G5505SC $1749
    Least expensive SS with built-in water softer.
    For extra $100 you can get one with an end of cycle auto-open door which helps drying.

    Electrolux ICON Designer E30EW85GSS $3399

    BlueStar RGTNB Series RGTNB366BV1 ~$3200
    Call or visit local BS dealer for exact price.

    Prestige Power Pack UIB401200 $1634
    40" insert with 1200 cfm blower. Best in class.

    http://www.ajmadison.com/cgi-bin/ajmadison/UIB401200.html

    Total $13,657.96

  • 14 years ago

    I wish there's a Sears outlet closeby. The closest one is 2-3hrs away.

    I'm in a similar situation, but our local Sears has a kind of outlet/closeout section in the store itself that often has comparable prices.

  • 14 years ago

    I think that is a lot of appliances. Nothing really extravagant in the list, it's just a LOT of 'em! :)

  • 14 years ago

    Per my experience: steer clear of front-load washers, unless you like wiping gunk out of the rubber gasket every time you wash (or it gets on your clothes) and leaving the door ajar to minimize the gunk problem. I've had two front-load washers and both had this problem. The first washer completely failed after 5 years. And I had replaced the gasket (not cheap, and a complete pain in the butt to do).

    I dumped my front loader and got a high-efficiency LG top-load. The tub is enormous, no pedestal or stooping required, and no problematic rubber seal.

    We have friends who are also disgusted by their front loader and want to..."unload" it.

  • 14 years ago

    We just got our Top Load LG Washer (LGWT5101H) and matching Dryer yesterday.
    Have done 4 loads so far and they work fantastic.
    The second load which was all our King Size sheets and a couple of small throw blankets got a "out of balance" warning but it actually added water, swished it around a bit back & forth and redistributed the load itself then started back with the rinse and spin. That was pretty cleaver I thought.

    The dryer is great, has not taken more than 40 minutes to dry anything we have thrown at it so far and never went past medium heat.
    All finished loads so far have been 91 minutes start to finish, it used to take that long just to DRY so we are saving at least 60 minutes or more per load.
    and we do about 5 loads a week, so 5 hours of electricity saved each week.

    They are very quiet, both washer and dryer.

    My wife being just 5.1" does have to get on her tip toes to reach the bottom of that ginormous tub on the washing machine but so far we could not be more pleased with them.

    Time will tell though, if we get 10 years or trouble free service then we scored.

  • 14 years ago

    If you want to know more about washers and dryers look at the laundry forum.

    I have used my front loader for almost two years now.

    No gunk or mold ever. Clean as the day I installed it.

    Since I use alot of fabric softner a wipe my gasket dry and leave door ajar after finishing laundry for the day. Takes 30 seconds but I guess for some people that is a huge burden. But ....

    Front loaders are more efficent and clean better than top-loaders without agitators and are much more efficient and gentler on clothes than top-loaders with agitators.Not to mention long term durabilty of new non-he top-loaders made under current federal water/electric efficiency standards.

    And European type washers with on-board heaters that engage in every cycle so when you specify warm or hot you actually get specified temperatures clean better than other front load washers that only engage in sanitary/clean drum/specialty cycles.

  • 14 years ago

    I figured out the difference in "efficiency" between our TL Vs one of the few FL that is that size (4.5cu.ft) and the difference for the amount of clothes that we do (about 4-5 loads a week tops) came out to a whopping $5 PER YEAR for the electricity and approx about $3-$4 in water.
    So in all less than $10 a year cost difference.

    In other words meaningless.

    It would take decades to make up the cost difference of purchase between the TL/FL which of course neither will last that long.

    As for "cleaning better" I don't see that all, I fail to see how any FL is going to clean better than this machine just did yesterday and today, so again baseless claims for the most part, a top of the line TL is going to clean just as well as a Fl of the same ilk.

    The main differences between a HE TL and FL is the TL is less likely to have mold mildew issues and is more likely to last longer in general all things being equal. Also whether or not you prefer to load and unload from the top or the front.

    But even that hardly means much really because you can certainly have a FL clean your clothes great and last 10+ years trouble free with no Mold or bearing issues.
    Same goes for the HE TL.

    We prefer the TL configuration, easier to load and unload.
    and prefer our chances of getting a TL that will be trouble free Vs the FL.

  • 14 years ago

    "steer clear of front-load washers"

    The odd thing is that TL washers have been next to non-existent in Europe for decades, and no-one over there seems to have the issues reported here. It's possible that there are design differences - the European models are generally smaller in capacity than the NA ones; maybe there are compromises involved in squeezing in the extra capacity.

    We were very happy to replace the TL washer that we got with our house with an LG front-loader - the FL does a much better job and sips water and electricity in comparison to the previous unit (which was a good mid-range one, only a few years old).

    We make a point of leaving the washer door open, because it does develop a slight mustiness if it is not allowed to dry out after use. We have never had to do anything beyond that.

    As to the energy and water efficiency aspects, multiplied across every household in the country, that makes quite a difference.

  • 14 years ago

    There's a reason you're seeing a resurgence in top-loaders (new HE models) and it's *not* because front-loaders are so fantastic.

    Complaints about front-loader issues are legion - look anywhere on the Web. And they certainly fit my own experience. And I had a front-loader before front-loaders were "cool." As for front-loaders cleaning better than an HE top-loader, this has not been my experience.

  • 14 years ago

    After discussing the budget more with H, we decided we won't buy a refrigerator and washer/dryer at this time. We were planning on taking our current ones to the new house but use them as secondary ones. But with the budget, we are going to use our current fridge and washer/dryer as primary ones and maybe buy new ones after all the spending settles.

    cj47... Thanks for the info on the Electrolux. Regarding the DW, I'm still trying to figure out what's best for us. I think it's best for me to create a new post on it. I'll post it later.

    deeageaux... Thank you for the specific recommendations. I really appreciate the info on the Sharp MW drawer. Great to know that people here have bought those MWs. If you didn't share this info, I would never consider them. I would be very leery on buying them. Great to know that they are fine. :) Sounds like an awesome deal!

    deeageaux... The prestige power pack looks like it has an internal blower. Am I right? We are considering in-line and remote. My H prefers inline though fo accessibility, but I think remote would be better since it would be farther away.

    Can anyone answer my question on the cost of range hood insert + cabinetry vs. chimney hood? Is a chimney hood cheaper?

    writersblock... Thanks for the tip. I'll check Sears and see if they have an outlet/closeout section. :)

    Thank you all for the input on front-loaders vs top-loaders. Definitely a lot to consider before we buy one.