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outlets in pantry

17 years ago

Hi,

Do you have outlets in your pantry?

If so, where are they? And what do you plug in them?

We are doing electrical plans right now. Just trying to figure out how many we need and where we need them?

thanks!

Comments (25)

  • 17 years ago

    Yes at current house. It has a small walk in pantry with one outlet down low on the wall near the floor. I installed it after we bought the place.

    No at the new build, which has a reach in pantry.

  • 17 years ago

    Our walkin pantry has an outlet on every wall except the wall where the door is. I've never used them.

  • 17 years ago

    Our previous house had one and we used it for a little dustbuster style vacuum and our deep freeze (it was a weird layout and held a deep freeze perfectly) I have a rechargable floor mop, so if you are storing brooms or mops or anything, that would be a consideration too.

    This house has a pantry, kind of. It is a NARROW closet, I assume a broom closet, that has shelves the entire height, we have no outlet in there and we have never missed one.

  • 17 years ago

    We have a walk-in pantry with 2 outlets. One goes to a small fridge--was the fridge son took to college--love having it, and the other outlet is for our toaster oven which we use in there. Love them both.

  • 17 years ago

    We have one down low in the area where we keep the brooms and I plug my dust buster into that one. I wish that I had another one so that I could have a beverage cooler in there and I also wish that I had put a telephone jack and outlet for the base station for the landline telephone.

  • 17 years ago

    I have two in my walk-in pantry. I had our trim carpenter build a work table based on a potting table. Outlets are located above counter for the toaster and microwave.

    Here is a link that might be useful: My Pantry

  • 17 years ago

    Allison,
    I LOVE your pantry!! I swoon over Willow's butler's pantry---yours also is beautiful---and practical. I love the wide shelf that functions as a counter and your use of baskets to organize. What is the total size of your pantry?
    In the home we're planning, we'll include at least 2 double outlets in the pantry. Our former home had a small drink fridge in the pantry. Next home will have the microwave in the pantry. We don't use it often enough to give it a prominent place in the kitchen.
    I looked at a home for sale that had a small bar sink installed in the walk in pantry. Not sure how practical that would be for me---but maybe.

  • 17 years ago

    Thanks! The pantry is 5ft x 7ft. The shelves are 9" deep on two walls. They are 15" deep on the right wall (worked around an HVAC return, lower corner).

    The countertop is butcherblock. We bought pre-made and cut down to fit space/the table. The table is 27" deep. Great for a plate while cooking something in the toaster or setting down grocery bags.

    The pantry was originally a closet for a bedroom, but during the planning stages we turned the bedroom into a sunroom. (We have three additional bedrooms on the lower level and two on the main, so we really didn't need a another one. Plus, I love having windows on three walls - since we're on a point, we have a water view on three sides. ) So by moving the door to the opposite wall, it became a great pantry.

    I almost put in a sink for the coffeemaker to go in there too, but we have a coffee station between the kitchen and the laundry room. I really like seeing it every time I come in from the garage. In hindsight, I wouldn't change a thing.

    Here is a link that might be useful: my kitchen - scroll down to see coffee station (black hutch)

  • 17 years ago

    we've got outlets on 2 of the walls in our walk-in pantry. We are currently only using one of them - located closer to floor - for the charging station of the upright/handvac. The cost to put them in now is minimal and worth it IMO!!

  • 17 years ago

    In my opinion, any "room" that a person can walk into should have one or more outlets, including closets. Reach into closets don't need them.

  • 17 years ago

    Be sure and check code in your area. If we had plugs in our walk-in closets, they had to be so far from hanging clothes. One closet we could not put rods in until after inspection. We were not sure if that room was going to be a bedroom or office and I wanted to be able to put all-in-one in closet so that really didn't matter at the time.

  • 17 years ago

    Allison, that's your kitchen??? It's beautiful. Each one of those photos had been saved in my kitchen file. I now see where the pantry is.
    You're setting on a point surrounded by water must be gorgeous. Do you have other photos posted anywhere???

  • 17 years ago

    Thanks. I love it - turned out just like I had imagined.

    I have pictures here and there. I post to Building, Decorating and Kitchens. But if you've seen the ones at AM, you've seen the kitchen. (I do need to take new pictures and replace those from when we just moved in!) In building, if you search "mortar wash" a few threads will come up with pictures of the outside.

  • 17 years ago

    We have a small pantry in our kitchen, and it still has electrical outlets in it. We plug in any devices that need charging, like drills, clippers and dust buster.

  • 17 years ago

    "Be sure and check code in your area. If we had plugs in our walk-in closets, they had to be so far from hanging clothes."

    Clothes closets have very specific restricions on light fixtures and required clearances.

    These do not apply to pantry type closets.

  • 17 years ago

    My builder wouldn't put outlet in mudroom closet (that I use as broom closet) - never offered to delete rod from plan so he could put one in, if that was an option.

    Our WIC is 7.5 x 9.5 and he wouldn't put one next to the door either - even though no rod on that wall. Maybe b/c we could hang clothes at the end of the rod on wall next to it?

    What *is* code (or is there one) for size of "room" and outlets? I know you're supposed to have one on every wall over 24" wide, but who says which side of the door it has to be on?

  • 17 years ago

    "What *is* code (or is there one) for size of "room" and outlets?"

    Habitable rooms.

    Closets are not habitable (note they have no egress requirement either).

    Any wall section over 24 inches wide must have receptacles located so that no place on the wall is more than 6 feet from a receptacle.

    This also does not apply to halls. They are only required to have a single receptacle.

  • 17 years ago

    Thanks. I knew about 6 ft rule and halls (though I wish I had put another outlet or 2 in hall). Just didn't know about "habitable rooms" - so a WIC isn't "habitable" (what if it serves as a dressing area)?

    Outlets are *required* in habitable rooms - is there code restricting them from being placed in closets or pantries (of any size)?

  • 17 years ago

    Every house I've ever lived in has never had enough outlets. The houses always met code, and I don't overload the receptacles, but it just seems like I sometimes want to hook something up and there may not be a convenient outlet. It's cheap to put one in when you're building, and I'd put one or two in the pantry even if you don't have a plan for them at the moment.

  • 17 years ago

    "... is there code restricting them from being placed in closets or pantries (of any size)?"

    Closets (including walk in clothes closets) have strict rules about the locations of outlets (and outlets covers receptacles and light).

    Any place that equipment is connected (or can be connected) to the permanent wiring is an outlet.

    A receptacle is one kind kind of outlet, a permanent light fixture is another.
    Cord and plug connected loads connect to a receptacle outlet.
    Where a hard wired load connects to the permanent wiring is an outlet.

    Panties are not covered under the clothes closet rules.

    Food is not considered as much of a fire risk as cloth.

    The clothes closet rules are VERY strict.
    The AHJ is not very likely to believe you are not going to use a closet in a mud room to store clothes (like jackets) and is liable to enforce the clothes closet rules as much as they can.

  • 17 years ago

    Just was wondering if I had asked builder to remove rod from plans so I could use it as a broom closet whether he would have put a receptacle inside.

    I have hooks for backpacks, pegs for clothes (and baskets for mittens). We store the coats we aren't currently wearing (winter coats when we're just wearing jackets, rain coats except when it's wet) in huge coat closet in foyer.

    Now, since I have the shelf/rod in the broom closet, I *do* tend to put clothes that need to be ironed in there, hang ones that need to air dry over the washer. But if I didn't have the rod, then I wouldn't hang *anything* in there.

    What *are* the clothes closet rules? I was thinking of adding a receptacle to the WIC for a vacuum cleaner.

  • 17 years ago

    "I have hooks for backpacks, pegs for clothes (and baskets for mittens). "

    It is then a clothes closet and falls under the restrictions for one.
    Linen closets do also, and they rarely have rods.

    It is the danger of heat from the light igniting flammable clothes and items stored on shelves that the code is trying to guard against.

    Exposed bulbs are not allowed in light fixtures, and there are rather large clearances required to rods and shelves to prevent flammable material from being placed to close to lighting.

  • 17 years ago

    I know about the clearances from light fixtures to shelves, and no exposed bulbs. I was just wondering about placement of receptacles in relation to rods.

    The hooks, pegs, and baskets are out in the mudroom, *not* in the closet, that's why I said I didn't need the rod/shelf the builder put in. The only things on the shelf in the closet are the baseboard that was cut for the closet but not installed and the vacuum cleaner attachments. Vacuum cleaner, Swiffer (that needs to charge) and mops are on the floor and hanging clothes/coats there gets in the way of the handles (though as I said we sometimes hang things that need to be ironed in there until we can get it done). So can I take the shelf/rod out and put a receptacle in? Right now it's more dangerous to leave the Swiffer plugged in outside the closet and risk someone closing the door on the cord.

  • 17 years ago

    "Panties are not covered under the clothes closet rules." Oh dear, uncovered panties? ;)

    Sorry brickeye, it just made me laugh so I had to be sure others saw it as well. Who doesn't need a good laugh these days :)