The best thing you could do for us (in order to get more input for you) is to show us a current floor plan and the proposed floor plan, then clearly list and number your questions or other options.

The biggest problem is that you have one floor plan in your list, but it's small, angled, and fuzzy. It also needs to be to scale...Like make each square equal 1' or 6". I want to help, I really do, but I need to see the plan to consider your options and make sense of your questions. Thanks, and looking forward to seeing what you're up to!

P.S. If you use the HTML code accompanying the image on photobucket, you can paste it right in the image...If the image is easy to see, and we don't have to do the cut and paste to see it, you'll likely get more responses...It ends up looking like this:

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Thanks rhome410... I did try and make it to scale. Each box was 1'. I don't know how to make it any clearer. I took a pic with my digital camera and uploaded it. It's a crude drawing I know. I just thought if someone saw the space they may be able to give some input about placing the frig or oven cabinent on that short wall. I'll at least repost the pics in html form and then see what I can do to improve my pathetic attempt at a layout drawing.

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OH nuts... I did something and made the layout pic worse and I can't change it back. I'll have to delete the pic from photobucket, retake it and try to upload again. Hopefully... it'll be clearer and someone might be able to give me input.

The reason I don't think it's too scale is that all of your cabinets are only 1 square deep. There is a measurement that says 6 1/2 ft and only uses 5 or 6 squares, and I don't know if you have 6 1/2 ft of aisle, or if it's 6 1/2 ft from wall to wall. And is that a table and chairs or something else on the right? It's very small/skinny if each square is 1 ft.

Can you take the picture of the drawing straight on...Straight down on it, so it's not at an angle. That would help.

I'm really trying to understand and am starting to make sense of some of it. I think the fridge could work on the short wall, if that is a table, because it would be centrally located and easy to access from every point in the kitchen. The current fridge location seems reasonable for the ovens. The problem with moving the fridge is landing space...15" isn't much, and it's quite a ways to the sink wall counters or the table. But you would have the same trouble putting the ovens there.

You're right... I didn't consider depth. I was concentrating on getting the width along the wall right since I would be figuring base cabinets upon that measurement. I wasn't as worried about depth since I knew the base cabs are all standard 24" depth. I guess it would have been just as easy to draw the depth right as it was to do it wrong! Live and learn! I'll try and take a better pic of the layout tomorrow. Thanks.

I took another pic. If it's not any better I'll have to redraw later today. Keep in mind I'm not changing anything except what's against the short wall into the space where the range and a small cabinet is.

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Elyse, I've looked at your photos enough to follow your layout, more or less, but I'm still not sure exactly what you want to do.

I got this:

1. Move 36" drawer unit + new 15" drawer unit to replace 30" range + 21" cabinet.

2. Install 30" induction cooktop in 36" drawer base.

I don't get where you want to put the oven. Also, is the floating wall the 36" drawers are on the one you want to replace with the island? Or was it the pony wall at the bottom of the plan next to the kitchen table?

In an attempt to be frugal I've canned the island idea and thought about putting either a boxed out 36" FD frig and 15" drawer stack on the floating wall (didn't know it was called that); or place a 33" double oven cabinet with a 15" drawer stack on that wall. If I were to place the frig there I thought I could place the double oven stack where the current frig is now. I'm sorry for not being clear, I'm learning as I go. If I thought this was my forever house I'd gut and do alot more. The pony wall where where my kitchen table is now may or may not stay the way it is. I'd like a table height work/bar/message center but I don't know how good it would be for resale so for now that thought is on the back burner.

In an attempt to be frugal I've canned the island idea and thought about putting either a boxed out 36" FD frig and 15" drawer stack on the floating wall (didn't know it was called that); or place a 33" double oven cabinet with a 15" drawer stack on that wall. If I were to place the frig there I thought I could place the double oven stack where the current frig is now. I'm sorry for not being clear, I'm learning as I go. If I thought this was my forever house I'd gut and do alot more. The pony wall where where my kitchen table is now may or may not stay the way it is. I'd like a table height work/bar/message center but I don't know how good it would be for resale so for now that thought is on the back burner.