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17 years ago

since we got our two puppies last year they have been treated for worms three times - with three different drugs. Now they both have worms again and the vet said it won't hurt them, and she really doesn't know what else to try. They do not have fleas and do not mix with other dogs that do not take flea control medicine. I have no idea how/why they keep getting them, but I am wondering if they actually ever went away in the first place. The puppies were found in a dumpster (yes, a dumpster) and had fleas, scabies, worms etc etc when we got them in July of last year. Any comments/thoughts would be appreciated.

Comments (16)

  • 17 years ago

    How frustrating.

    First off, what were the courses of treatment for the pups? (meds and follow-ups) I figure the vet has used a wormer like drontel plus, but I think it needs follow-up doses to kill the worms in certain stages of development.

    Have worms been identified in a fecal direct smear or flotation? Which worms? I wonder if there might me a resistant strain of ghirardia that drontel plus does not cover?

    Certain parasites can be very resiliant in your back yard, or just in local dirt, so maybe they are getting reinfected? Also, compromised animals (with weaker immune systems) tend to be more susceptible to things than very healthy animals, so have all the health issues for the pups been resolved?

  • 17 years ago

    Are you using over the counter worm meds or vet ones?, I assume vet ones, Did you treat for the recomanded time period? Have they been drinking from dirty puddles or eating things they shouldn't?

    What type of worms do they have?, also if switching to a better diet ( usealy seen with raw diets/homemade ) its common for dogs to pass worms, its actually a sign of the body repairing itself- though if dogs are not on raw I would rule out this unless its a very high grade food like Evo, or Orijen ) If this be the case, its a good thing not a bad thing.

  • 17 years ago

    All medications taken have been prescribed by the vet. The last time (about four weeks ago it was drontel plus). Yesterday the vet took a stool sample, looked at it and said it was tapeworm. The stool sample was also sent off to the lab, results should be back today. The are on dry food, I have not changed the food. The puppies have been given a clean bill of health - other than worms. The puppies spend an average of four or five hours a day in the yard (we are training on the invisible fence system) and have several walks per day - at least one is over a mile - and yes, the do stop to sniff and pick up stuff occasionally, although the now respond immediately to the command 'drop'!

  • 17 years ago

    Have your pups been on worm prevention medications such as interceptor? If not I would highly recommend it.

  • 17 years ago

    Why don't vets recommend diatomaceous earth? It would be safe for everybody in the household and is very effective in the control of parasites. Be sure to locate FOOD GRADE diatomaceous earth.

    It can be applied directly to the dog's food.

  • 17 years ago

    yes, they have their months flea/tick/heartworm etc. Just heard from the vet, no other parasite was found in the stool sample. She is trying to contact the vet school at UGA in Atlanta so that she can discuss what medication to prescribe for the puppies. What is FOOD GRADE diatomaceous earth?

  • 17 years ago

    its probably human grade soil treatments i saw a guy on tv eating clay, thats what comes up in my mind.

  • 17 years ago

    Heartworm meds won't necessarily prevent ALL worms.....interceptor or a more complete worm prevention may be needed.

  • 17 years ago

    Its not uncommon for pups to need to be dewormed several times.

    Some worms have developed resistance to certain drugs and your vet may need to change medications in order to get them ...

    I probably would be very diligent about poo clean up, making sure droppings in the yard are picked up quickly and disposed of properly (in the garbage) - until you have the problem under control.

  • 17 years ago

    Food has nothing whatever to do with parasite loads.

    Also: vets do the fecals in their offices, they do not send them out. Techs do that. I did them.

    Last: Because drontel plus can only treat parasites in certain stages of their development, a followup dose is necessary three weeks later.

  • 17 years ago

    Food in itself doesn't, but the kind of food can lead to a cleansing- meaning they were in there all along but have only- come out.

    given the fact the pups came from a horrible suitation its no surprise that they are full of worms., you probably should invest in whatever worming meds the vet says.

  • 17 years ago

    So, runswalken, cats that live on wild prey do not have intestinal parasites? Obligate carnivores - cats, hawks, owls - that live on appropriate food from the wild are cleansed by that food?

  • 17 years ago

    My pup was abused, neglected and had to be de-wormed 3 times as well....

  • 17 years ago

    3 times has nothing to do with abuse, its the standard protocol required for the life cycle of the parasites...

    Even pups who weren't abused or abandoned typically have to be dewormed three times...

  • 17 years ago

    You say that your pups have been wormed three times. Has it been the same type of "worm" each time? Are they on heartworm preventative? Most of your heartworm preventives protect against hookworm and roundworm with one (interceptor) protecting against a third, whipworms. However, tapeworms are contracted through fleas. The flea is the intermediate host of the tapeworm and the dog has to swallow the flea to get tapes. Even though you may not see fleas on your babies, you do say you take them for long walks where they could pick up a single flea which could be all that it takes to get tapeworm. There is a heartworm preventative (Iverhart Plus) that claims to protect against tapes but the dosage of the medication (dronsit) seems too low to do this.

    I guess my best advise would be to worm your babies according to your vets advise and get them started on a good heartworm preventative. Also realize that some "worms" are zoonotic meaning that the are transmissible to humans so your pups "worms" not only have a health risk to your babies but to you too!

  • 17 years ago

    I do use interceptor every month. I am not sure what type of worms they have had to be honest. I guess I need to check with the vet. I just assumed (wrongly I now know) that once they had had medication all would be well.