Im not trying to waste your time. Im just had to tell you that we have cantilever concete and love it. We have a liner pool. Our builder used styrofoam forms that they pulled off after the concrete was poured. Im glad our pool included it.

The stegmeier forms are really good and not too difficult to install. I assume since you have an auto cover you will have square corners so they should be able to mitre the styrofoam there.
The most important thing now is that your cover installer needs to be involved to ensure that there will be sufficient space below your coping to mount the tracks. The styrofoam forms themselves do not have a flat area sufficient for this so the forms need to be built out. He can also provide a detail for how the edge around the cover box is to be formed. Good luck.

Call Stegmeier's Arlington Texas phone no. and ask for John or Dominick. They can walk you or your builder through it. Great products, great support.

quote" My pool builder has never done a cantilevered edge and neither has the concrete contractor, so I am doing research to make sure we do it right. "quote

Statements like this make me nervous on your behalf.
I can assure you, this is not a project for a first timer on your pool unless your pool construction
contractor is willing to be held completely liable. If he doesn't have the insight on the application to guide his concrete man through the process you should have him seek a concrete contractor intimate with the job at hand.
My guess is that if something goes wrong on the install, and it can easily on a job like this, neither he or his concrete contractor will want to step up to the plate and eat the demo and repour.

just my .02

see ya,
Kelly

Kelly--I agree with you. This whole thing makes me nervous. My pool builder does his own concrete. He built our last pool and was not comfortable trying the cantilever edge. So we told him that he could back out the cost of the concrete work and we would hire the concrete contractor that did all of the work on our new home. I hope we are not screwing up here. Thanks for your concern. He uses Clayton Lambert for the pool and Automatic Pool Cover for the cover. I am assuming that these are good products. Maybe I should skip the cantilevered edge to simplify things. We'll see.

georgiapoollover--I saw pics of your pool. I hope mine turns out that good.

cascade--thanks for the advice. It looks like this company may have 90 degree corner foam pieces for the corners. Do you know anything about this? Again thanks.

colt--I found the # on their website and will give them a call. Thanks for the heads up.

"Maybe I should skip the cantilevered edge to simplify things"

Man are you loyal...willing to change what you want just to stay with your builder. I'll bet contractors everywhere would kill for more customers like you. You rock!

i would also be very nervous if my builder told me he never did one. i have read that the cantilever edge is more difficult to do and is prone to cracking but i love the look and my builder assured me he has much experience with it. what is the normal warranty on cantilever work?

Booger,
I always love your replies.
This really has me LMAO!!!
quote" "Maybe I should skip the cantilevered edge to simplify things"
Man are you loyal...willing to change what you want just to stay with your builder. I'll bet contractors everywhere would kill for more customers like you. You rock! "quote

I most certainly would.

The truth of the matter is that although my company has taken many first steps in many different avenues of pool construction, I'd already gone through the learning curve on my previous employers pools a long time before I ever went out on my own.

blsdgal,

I'm really not trying to persuade you not to go with your man. I'm simply pointing out my take on this particular aspect of your pool contruction project.
The truth of the matter is that when I worked for my prior employer I learned at the same time as our subs on our new
endeavors. Very very few went wrong, most came out just fine. The few that did didn't cost me or the sub a penny out of our pockets, the builder (a very good man) sucked it up and adressed it. I saw many of our competitors who wouldn't do the same. They told the buyers that whether you like it or not the job is considered complete.

I'd call the position your in a "leap of confidence".
Go with your gut, if you feel that they're capable let them do it.
You'll never know by denying them the opportunity to try it for the first time.

See ya,
Kelly

I've never used a stegmeier preformed corner. I've always either cut and bent the styro for curved pools or mitred for square corners but to be honest I've built my own wood forms for the majority of my pools. (and we, or the general under our direction, pour the copings on most of our pools)
As far as your builder saying he hasn't poured a cantilevered coping before - good for him. I admire his honesty and not using you as an unknowing guinea pig. That being said, if he does his homework and puts some thought and research into the job its not that tough.
I can't emphasize enough the importance of meeting with your cover installer to ensure that the forms you are proposing to use will work with his product.

cascade--I took your advice and called Tx yesterday and talked to John Stegmier. He was so helpful and I had a lot of confidence that he was giving me good advice. He told me exactly which form I needed for the brand of cover we are using. (I didn't even have the right form linked above.) He gave me the # for their rep closest to our area.

I just met with my concrete contractor and gave him all of the info and the #s he needs. We are also involving the rep from the cover company (more good advice--thank you).

Kelly--I have a fair amount of confidence in my concrete guy. He did all of the concrete work for our new home. It is definitely a leap of faith though as you said and a little scary that he hasn't done this before. We are in the middle of Illinois in a rural area and do not have a lot of choices if you want to build a pool. So, there really is no one experienced with want I want--the cantilevered edge. Thanks for your good advice as well :-)