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16 years ago

Had the second of three beginner's quilt classes tonight. It went well because there was no more cutting or measuring to be done! All sewing! I got all my blocks pieced (thanks in part to a hefty bit of 3 AM homework). The teacher taught us to chain stitch tonight when doing blocks and that rocks! It really speeds up the process. I'm a chain stitcher convert now! I didn't have much interaction with the teacher tonight. She was helping the "show off" (LOL) who had finished his entire quilt top at home with the border while the rest of us finished our blocks. Two ladies who come on Tuesdays to sew and gossip came in and sewed with us during class. One of them had a Babylock Quilter's Dream which is almost the same exact machine as my Brother PC 420. We had fun praising the machine and dissing Bernina snobs and trading presser feet. She said she paid 1200 dollars for her machine... I only paid 500 dollars for mine so that made me feel good. Hers has a few more stitches and came with a few more feet and extension table, but those are really the only differences. She showed me the 1/4 inch quilting foot that would have come with my machine if my machine had included it. She said it was awful, so she does as I do and leaves the regular foot on and just sets the machine to the piecing stitch. It was really fun to talk with her... though once all the ladies started talking about their pregnancies I felt a little out of place. When my friends ask me what I learned in quilting class tonight I can say, "If I ever get pregnant and I have curly hair, it might turn straight afterwords!" The one girl who was pregnant asked me to carry her machine in from the office for her because I'm a "male".... little does she know I'm more feminine that she is, but I did it anyway since I'm not pregnant!

No problems happened in class, except the touch screen on my cell phone stopped working and it put me in a bad mood (then the odometer back light in my car burned out on the way home, didn't help my mood, but at least the sewing machine didn't break!). The only problem I've had at home is that when I lay all the pieces out on my bed, my silly cat runs through them and messes them up! Not good when I've just pressed them and am trying to compare colors. If accidentally sew him to a block one day, he may get the message. Stay off the bed when daddy is quilting!

The cheap iron at the quilt shop leaked on one of my blocks and either made a water stain or the colors run. When I was piecing, I noticed a row of my stitches was all squiggly. I knew I was being careful, and couldn't figure out what the problem was. Well, it turned out that I was using the knee operated presser foot lifter and I was accidentally activating it while stitching so the presser foot wasn't making complete contact with the material. The teacher told me I didn't need to rip it out, just so a straight line in front of the mess up, so that worked and I took the silly lever off my machine after that. I brought my own pins tonight and that made things a lot better for me. I didn't have to beg the teacher or worry about remembering to return them. I also brought my own tape measure, and I did need to check something. It was nice to not have to run to the cutting table just to check a quick measurement. You all were spot on with your advice to bring as much of my own "stuff" as possible.

I got to class about 30 minutes early as did another student. The teacher asked us if we were enjoying the class and process. She said she goes home and night and just wonders if everyone is learning and having a good time. I don't know if she wanted an ego boost or an honest answer... I said I was enjoying the sewing but not measuring, cutting and pressing. I didn't pay attention to what the other student said. I asked the other student if she was going to finish her quilt on her own or if she was going to leave it unfinished. She said she thought the class was going to leave us with a finished product, and was disappointed to learn it wasn't. The teacher said that we can buy batting and backing there and even use her amazing Gammill long arm if we want, but learning to finish a complete quilt isn't part of the class.

I was the last one to finish my blocks and the class ended (right at 9 this week, no 10:17!) with everyone spreading their blocks out on the floor to organize them for assembly. We can do some at home and finish in class next week. When I finish, I will post a picture to this thread (don't want to clutter up the forum with too many threads about the same thing) and final thoughts. It's fun to see the variety of colors that everyone chose. Some people did lots of bright fun colors that need sun glasses to be looked at. Others did fall colors, nice warm elegant quilts. I got a mix of everything from all around the room (didn't stay in one group or section of fabrics)... green, purple, gold, red, burgundy.... it's a wacky quilt to be sure. Probably the least coordinated color wise of any of them there, but that's OK :O) Tonight's class was much better than last weeks, so that's a good thing! And no rain, even better!

What is a batik and why do people keep saying they would never mix them with other fabrics but they know "other" people do commit that terrible sewing sin? If I hear that one more time, I don't know what I'll do! The teacher said that last time speaking of my fabrics, and one of the sewing gossipers repeated it tonight, though not in reference to me.

By the way, the teacher had her machine propped up on two door stops. She said it helps get a better viewing angle when piecing. Anyone else do that?

Comments (21)

  • 16 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Glad you had a better experience tonight. It's also a good thing that you bought some of your own supplies. You do need the tools of the trade to get the job done. You can so mix batiks with other fabrics if you are careful. We'll look forward to seeing pictures of your project.

  • 16 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Bobby, glad to hear this second class went better than the first. It sounds like you are getting the hang of the quilting process and that you are picking up on all the advice you have received from us - good for you!

    ~ Yes, to the rubber door stops to prop up the back of your machine! Works a treat!

    ~ You may have to shut the door on the kitty when you are laying out your quilt blocks. :o( Also, when I have the blocks laid out like I want, I gather them up from left to right with the far left block on the top and the far right block on the bottom and pin all the blocks together with a large straight or safety pin; then I pin on a label "row 1" then do the same for the next row from the top, "row 2" and so on.

    ~ Take all the help and advice offered by the instructor while the class is in session and after the class ends with the final session; she can be of real help to your learning curve and sounds as if she sincerely wants to help her students.

    ~ Closely examining the other student's blocks will help you understand the use of color and value in quilting and how to put movement in your designs as you progress. This will also help you decide what style of quilt fabrics you prefer. Each quilt you make will help you to learn more about fabrics and what really pleases you.

    ~ Some quilt designs are just suited to using all batik prints (a really old process that originally used wax and designs carved into wood blocks) but I personally don't listen to those people who say "never" do this/that. Batiks are somewhat more expensive fabrics, so I might only use my scraps in a scrap quilt. Batiks are wonderful for "water" or "sky" or "foliage" fabrics. I've also used them for fish shapes and other animals, mountains, and other elements in landscape quilts.

    All the best - you are a quilter in progress!
    Teresa

  • 16 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    VF, Sounds like you had more 'fun' during this class and don't believe everything you hear about the do's and don'ts of putting certain fabric together. It's your quilt and if you like it, that's all it takes. Chain stitching is the way to go, that's for sure! Been doing that for years.

    Yes, it's always a good thing to bring your own tools. You might look into getting a travel iron (I use mine by my machine and keep the larger one on the big board) and make a pressing mat to use for classes. I used to use the door stops til DH made a board for me to use. He ground out round indentations where the rubber things are so it sets into it. It's just something else.....to each his own. I don't have a flat sewing space, I'm short, have the office chair up as far as it goes and am also sitting on a pillow so it works for me.

    If you are going to take classes, put your sewing machine in a rolling suitcase along with all your supplies. Might give the pg person an idea.....DUH! @:)

    SharonG/FL

  • 16 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    I am glad things went better this week. Even if you only learn a few new things it is worthwhile and enjoying the process is most important. I am sure the teacher would really like to know how you feel about the class. She may also be learning and would appreciate knowing how she is getting across to the students.
    It is most important to remember that this is always your quilt and if you like the way it is going together that is what if important. It is worth noting that batiks usually are on more tightly woven fabric and that the colors may bleed. How you choose to mix them should be your choice and not some silly rule. Jayne

  • 16 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    - I hadn't thought of propping up the back of the machine to change the angle. I might have to try that.
    - I chain stitch whenever possible and should have thought to mention that in the 'advice' thread.
    - Any fabrics can be mixed, but it can present some additional challenges so I wouldn't recommend it to a beginning quilter. Some stretch more than others on the diagonal, some have different washing requirements, etc. Personally, I love quilts made entirely of batiks and would think a bit of regular quilters cotton wouldn't mix in well, but if the quilt is really scrappy then mixing fabrics is fine. It's all about personal preference and if you like the look of it then it's ok. Batik is usually more tightly woven than quilting cottons, may be more easily wrinkled and may bleed when first washed. The threads are dyed, instead of printed, so the pattern shows on both sides of the fabric equally. Take a close look at a batik, a regular printed cotton and a piece of muslin - you should be able to see clear differences in all three. Kona cotton is a commonly used solid, available in lots of colors. It's different too with a more substantial feel and a bit more open weave. I like it but some quilters don't like to mix it in with other fabrics. We could talk about fabrics all day! LOL This might be another good topic for a Question of the Day.

    Kate

  • 16 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    You're not supposed to mix batiks with regular cottons? Oops, sorry birthday block swappers! I never knew this. I have them mixed on almost every quilt I've made.

    Chain stitching is great-I do it every chance I get. Makes things so much faster.

  • 16 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    I mix batiks and other cottons also - I think if the color and hand of the fabric and the pattern lends itself to a mixture of different weaves, why not?
    I have a much harder time with "scrappy".

  • 16 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    One of my favorite combinations is batik with a white on white fabric.

    Of course you can mix them!

    Here's one - not all the colors are batiks, but most are:

    Here's another:

  • 16 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    I love all your quilts Mary!

  • 16 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Oh, thanks, Marsha!

    But I just wanted Bobby to know that there are very few rules in quilting. Yes, you do need accurate cutting and piecing - but not combining batiks with other cotton fabrics is just plain silly.

    I will also say - given the process used to make batiks, they are much less likely to bleed than other fabrics. I quilt mostly with batiks, and I don't prewash, and I've never had one bleed.

  • 16 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    OK Mary, I take it back! They don't bleed! I've never had a problem with colors running in batiks but had been told that by others. Maybe it qualifies as an Old Wives' Tale.

    Kate

  • 16 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Oops, sorry Kate - I didn't read everything, and I didn't mean to step on your toes!

    Maybe we should start an Old Wives' Tales thread, LOL.

  • 16 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    My toes are fine! LOL I love that we can share opinions on this forum without offense. I knew no offense was intended and none was taken.

    I like the idea of an Old Wives' Tale thread!

    Kate

  • 16 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    I'm glad it went much better. Perhaps you can start a sewing group instead of a class. Just get together and share ideas and work on sewing.

    As for batiks, ooops for me too. Didn't know I wasn't supposed to mix them. If they fit into your project, go for it. I am careful of mixing fabric weights, batiks are usually a tighter weave and I don't like to mix them with some really light weight fabrics.

    Your quilt, your rules!

    beverly

  • 16 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    *whew*! I thought I had really messed up with combining batiks! :P

    I have, in fact, had a batik from a quilt shop bleed like a son of a gun. It was a gorgeous dark purple, and it even transferred dye to my husband's white t-shirt on the clothesline. I soaked it, used vinegar, and eventually had to discard it. I didn't want to risk ruining a quilt.

  • 16 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    I hate to disagree but I have had a problem several times recently with regard to batiks bleeding. I have never been one to wash my fabric before use and after the problems I have had with the batiks I now check them before I uses them. Not all bleed but many do. You only have to have something that has taken a lot of time ruined to learn this lesson. Jayne
    PS I did help one disaster by using a dye catcher.

  • 16 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    I also had batiks bleed and bleed and bleed. I was told they were fugitive dyes.
    I do prewash everything.
    I just got an email from the shop that's big once a year sale was affected with our 2 blizzards 4 days apart offering 25% off their batiks on bolts. The sale was only 15% off - I am going to fit this into my schedule!!!

    Bobby - I am so glad you had a positive class- I've had some less then great classes - but I always walk away with learning something, even if it is to avoid a class given by that particular instructor. My free time is limited, so I hate to waste it on a poor class, but I am old enough to know that I do not burn bridges unless I intend to never cross it again. Given her question, I would choose my words carefully and perhaps say it wasn't exactly what you expected the 1st class to be, but you got alot out of the 2nd class. Except for pregnant talk, your class sounds typical & that chatter would have driven me bonkers -BTW. The more you read and learn on your own, the more you will get out of each class.

  • 16 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Thanks for the advice regarding batiks. From what I can tell, I like working with batiks better than regular quilting cottons. The only bad thing is that it's had to tell which side is bottom and which is top, and where the selvage is.

    Last night, I laid all my pieces out and organized them into 7 rows. I started to a little bit in class, but ran short on time and was too tired (and mad about the phone breaking I had to get home so I could cuss t-mobile out, only had that silly phone 4 months!) even though the teacher said she would stay late with me if I wanted to finish. It would have been nice to get her advice and that of the other students about placement of colors. It was tough finding a place to lay all the pieces out in my small apartment. I had to roll the portable dishwasher out of the way and move a chair and garbage pail! It was also really tough to decide where to put the colors so that one wasn't too concentrated in any one area. Some of them still are, but I did the best I could with that pattern. There are 14 colors, one of the blocks has 3 colors, one has 4 and then there are 2 spacers in each row so the colors repeat a lot! I stacked them up in 7 piles, but I was too tired to label the rows and pin last night so I went to bed. When I got up, my cat had played with his toy mousey in my piles and I got to do the whole thing all over again tonight! This time I pinned them to the carpet! I even got the first row sewn together, so only 6 more to go and then I can sew the rows to each other. I'll be glad when it's over... it's been fun, but it's been consuming my life lately! I keep staying up til 4 AM messing with quilt parts and having the strewn all about the living space while dishes and laundry are piling up!

    My machine does have an extra high lift presser foot... I'm about to see if it will accommodate a 15 pound playful tabby. Jasper is going to be the center piece of my next quilt so he doesn't keep messing me up... though I know part of it is my fault for not confining him or pinning like I should when pieces are loose and scattered.

    Off to bed now... just think, next week at this time, I may be sleeping under a quilt that I made!

    Thank you all so very much for being there for me :o)

    Kate, if you make it to the quilt shop, let me know what you think. I've never been to any other one, so I don't know how it compares. I hear Queen Anne's Lace in Kissimmee rocks, have you been there?

  • 16 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    QA's Lace used to be the best place around but I wasn't impressed the last time I was there. There's a great shop in Lake Mary... Can't recall the name... Do a web search for Bernina in Orlando and you'll find them because they do authorized service. You'll love their selection of batiks.
    I like Quilters Cove on Curry Ford Road - small but nice and with great service.
    The best shop i knowof in Central Fl is in Rockledge and worth the drive. Fire up your GPS and go to The Quilt Place in Rockledge. Plan to spend some time there! You can see dozens of quilts on display, samples of all sorts of quilt stitches, and enough fabric to make you dizzy.

    Btw, I quilt with 3 cats and a sheltie who sees all fabric as a potential bed!

    Kate

  • 16 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    I went to the shop where v'freak is taking the lessons. They have a large selection of batiks (my favs!) and a fairly small but nice selection of quilting cottons. It's pretty typical for a small local shop but with more batiks than expected. The staff was very friendly and welcoming. I bought a few fat quarters and will definitely go back.

    Kate

  • 16 years ago
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    Glad you made it there Kate! Glad you liked it too... Thanks for telling me about queen annes lace too, I've heard it was the be all end all so I'm glad to have a more realistic opinion!

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