Front driveway view

Other than the threat of wildfires and dealing with dead trees due to pine bark beetle, pine trees are great. They buffer sound and usually mean less yard maintenance as grass won't grow if there's not enough sun filtering through. The smell is also great. If you're allergic to pine pollen, you'll have a couple of miserable weeks in the Spring.

In drought years, pine trees are matchsticks and fire spreads very quickly, so you need to be prepared, but that's not really different from other natural disasters.

Very pretty! I don't have much to add, though we were once considering relocating to the Colorado springs area and if I recall correctly there was an area to the north that looked like what you pictured. I could be wrong, but I remember it as being a windy place...I could be mixing it up though.

olivesmom - you are probably thinking of a similar area. This area is north of Colorado Springs and wind is always present in Colorado! I'd look forward to not as much in the trees, at least having a wind break of some sort and the sound of wind through the trees is soothing.

Pine needles and "husks" that track into your living areas. Your pine needles look longer than mine though, so you probably really only will have husks tracked in (I don't know if they are really called husks--but the brown part at the base of the needles that likes to slip off the needles...)

I just have 1 big spruce next to my house. Dont live in CO but know it fairly well. Pros outweigh the cons I think...

Pros: beautiful after a snowfall, the sound of the wind moving thru pine branches, the smell of pine on a warm sunny day. Cons: my big spruce drops all kinds of needles that clog the gutter and can be a PITA to remove because its all stuck on with pine sap.

Lived part time in the Sierras for a bit. Needles in the gutters were a constant pain. Needles on the driveway and walks were a pain, and slippery when wet. Biggest hazard were the giant pine cones, upwards of 12". Don't know if they were unique to the area, but they dropped out of nowhere, without warning... could cause a concussion, for certain, if hitting just so!

You almost have to wear shoes outside.

Biggest concern is fire. Check how easy to get out and insurance rates.

We're in the midwest so your drought and fire issues are not something we deal with but we do have pines of a few different types on and around our property. They do shed needles, some types more than others (white pines are our worst for that) and the amount varies year to year. The ones closest to the house are a gutter issue on their own, but we also have oaks and the needles spear through the leaves and clog gutters even more as a result. We've tested different types of gutter control systems but none of them work really well with our needle/leaf/acorn combo.

And then there's the sap. If you plan to have any outdoor furniture it will have to be a considerable distance from any pines (or under roof) otherwise you're going to be sitting and eating on sticky stuff. It doesn't just fall straight down but does travel a bit with wind. Pets can track it in on their paws, you'll track it in with needles on your shoes.

I actually told my husband that I'd never move to another house with white pines unless they were on the edges of large acreage or we'd have to remove them!!

We used to live among fir trees and as others have said the needles are annoying! When DH cleaned the gutters it was a big job because they were always full of needles. I think if you could take down trees that are close to the house it would help some. I would check too about fire in that area and you may have to take more trees down to be safe against fire.

Ah yes. Sap.

But they are beautiful and full of birds and possibly worth the trouble.

"I think if you could take down trees that are close to the house it would help some. I would check too about fire in that area and you may have to take more trees down to be safe against fire."

Good points. You might look into how much it would cost to have any trees removed. We paid $1,600.00 to have two mature (infected) ash trees removed.

If you lived here and had a fire, could you see yourself creating a 'safe' place to go to if you were unable to evacuate?

A link that might be useful:

www.sdcounty.ca.gov/pds/fire_resistant.html

My fil planted pines all around his house. When he went to the nursing home, I got to help clean up the pine needles. We had 20 lawn bags and counting before we left. Fil had let it go before he got sick because it was so much work. SIL chopped down the shrubs in front of house because the needles always made them look messy. Pine trees are beautiful, but I would not want them right next to the house.

Yes - I've been considering all this. I have a feeling the Homeowners Insurance will want the ones closest to the house removed, which wouldn't bother me at all. That would reduce the gutter issue and all the decks are already covered, so sap falling directly on them is not an issue - but can't control wind. We've been there several times and I don't ever see sap on the driveway or walking areas - not sure if there's a certain time of year they drop more sap or not? I actually wanted pines on this larger acreage so the workload of maintaining open pasture was reduced. We have horses and currently live in open land and it's a lot of work to maintain. I'm thinking we would pay a service to come in once a year to maintain the trees - trim, cut, etc. To me, a cost of living in the pines. They do give the house lots of privacy, which is a huge plus being closer to town. We actually made an offer on the house yesterday and was accepted this morning. We are thrilled to be closer to town and with the price we got.

Congratulations! But, as another poster said, maintenance on them isn't exactly a "yearly" thing. It's ongoing. You have a storm, and you'll have a few downed branches to deal with. All year long. The chainsaw, wood chipper, and tractor bit is just a part of owning property like that. I don't think the property upkeep chores are any less with trees over pasture. Just different. And in some cases, the chores are a lot more labor intensive or expensive. Riding a tractor with a bush hog to mow pasture is pretty easy. Taking down a 30' pine safely isn't.

Do you know people with horses on pine needles? I'd be worrried that they'd slip and get injured. Those needles can really slide around. It is hard to tell in the winter when they are frozen in place. So, I'd ask around what precautions you should do for your horses.

Good luck!

We live 4,000 feet above Denver near Conifer so we have pine and spruce AROUND the house, but Jefferson County requires cutting a firebreak perimeter around the house( as the insurance company also suggests). We have lots of squirrels and birds, also fox, mule deer and elk. Get southern exposure to melt the snow on the drive then blacktop it. You will need a snowblower and snow tires (Blizzaks) at 9,000 feet! snow on the driveway if possible, then blacktop it.

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We had 2 houses with a lot of pines. The negatives were lots and lots of pine needles. I mean lots. It does increase maintenance. The driveway for example gets covered with them. And they are just everywhere. Also pine cones, lots of them. On one house we had a pool and the constant pine needles falling in the pool was a major issue. We had to pay for help maintaining the pool (we had maintained our own pool at our before) because the constant pine needles in the pool made it really hard to clean and to balance chemicals.

We have plenty of pine trees but none close to the house. Even though the ones we have are far away the dogs still come in with little, sticky, brown pine pieces on their backs and I find pine needles in the house. I also find pine sap on my cars.

Today it snowed and the snow on the pines is so beautiful. I also like the fact that the yard is green year round. I am all for pine trees and the little nuisances they produce as long as they are not close to the house.

we are considering a piece of land that backs onto a park. The park is lined with Pine trees. They are huge, very tall but about 3 metres from the boundary. Will this still cause us issues with pine needles and sap?

Guess I would not think of pine needles as an "issue" - they make fabulous addition to the compost. Your mileage may vary - as they say!

pine needles didn't bother me as much as the "branches, sticks or limbs" falling constantly everywhere.....the needles make the very best mulch for flowerbeds

love the sound of the wind in the pines and the smell on a really hot day

The scent of pine needles is wonderful. We have huge pines on our lake property. We don't park under them (sap) and they do drop a ton of needles in the fall. However needles are easier to rake than leaves and they burn well. At our home we have about six or seven large Colorado blues. For some reason they didn't come back well from the winter weather. Their insides look burned and only the tips are still green. Scary to see a whole species of tree "go" at the same time.

Christy Bell - Congratulations on your house deal. Hope you will be very happy there.

We have conifers (including white pines) and hardwood trees on our six acres. The conifers are useful as screens and for holiday greens, but otherwise they do not earn their keep. The wood can't be burned in a woodburning stove so when they come down they end up in permanent stacks. I finally spread the logs from a bunch of the stacks on the ground and planted ferns and (yes!) baby norway spruce among them. If taking down trees is going to part of the cost of living in your new home, know that the cost rises exponentially with their size, proximity to structures and access, and if they are dead. Be proactive about culling the ones you can handle before you have to pay big bucks.

thanks for the feedback

I live surrounded by pine trees and although they're beautiful and stately they are a massive nuisance. Some examples. Pine cones drop on the roof and make a huge crash that startles you. Pine needles and pinecones strewn all around constantly needing to be raked up. Pine cones pine needles and branches have to be cleaned off the roof annually . During the Spring around March excessive amount of yellow pine pollen covers everything outside the deck lawn furniture cars and is really pervasive. It spoils going outside. Also they cause a lot of allergies although if you look it up online the experts state pine pollen doesn't cause a lot of allergies but I think that's nonsense. As a few other people have mentioned it doesn't make good firewood so essentially I would highly suggest not having pine trees in your immediate surroundings of the home or your yard.

This is not what I want for my permanent home. A 'summer camp'? Sure. Messy is fine when you're camping out, and you want to live in shade in the summertime.

I live in the forest in western Washington. Yes, there is pollen in the spring and wind storms can be scary but overall it is peaceful and serene. If you delight in watching wildlife, it is a lovely place to live.

my vehicles are constantly being covered in sap, falling pinecones that scratch my paint and crack the windshied. Not to mention the paint like pollen that covers my vehicles. a car cover is the only option but it takes a lifetime to put them on and take them off which is very inconvienent when you use the car multiple time a day.