Technically no. SunTouch has a Filter pump relay plus 2 additional relays. However, it is generally not recommended to use the FP relay for items other than the pump. The FP relay has a lot of logic built into it for the pump (delays, freeze protection, etc.)

You have freeze protection on all circuits. It needs to be enabled though. With a VS, you will wire the filter pump relay as you normally would with the heater on the load side. However, rather than put the pump on the load side like you mechanical clock is, you will put it on the line side as the pump needs a direct power source. This will ensure the heater can only fire with the pump on in pool or spa mode. You still wire the heater low voltage to the terminal bar on the board.

You would then put the blower on AUX 1 so it can be easily turned on at the board rather than going through the complex menu.

You can assign that cleaner valve to any circuit. It is easiest to assign it to CLEANER and then assign the valve to it. It does not have to be a solar selection as you have a VALVE C option to assign to any circuit.

Under the pump menu, you will choose IntelliFlo 4. You then assign the circuits you want as listed above.

POOL = One speed
SPA = One speed
CLEANER = One speed
AUX 3 with a function of SPILLWAY = One speed

This only leaves one additional AUX which is 2. You can wire your lights to this relay but you cannot control pool and spa lights separately. That is the limitation of this unit.

AUX 3 is not a physical relay. It is a virtual relay that will work for the SPILLWAY option as this is not a relay, it's just a valve command with a speed assignment.

Repair_Guy,

Thanks for the quick response, as always a fantastic reponse. Its forum members like you that make this site such a good source of information. Thanks.

--Dan

Hey, another question. My PB just came out to switch the 2hp whisperflo and the VS3050. I looked back there and he just took off the motor and housing (back of the pump) and added the VS3050 back end. Is this an acceptable thing to do or should he have switched the entire unit out? Isn't the impeller located in the front part? Will this affect the operation? Now I have a whisperflo front end and VS3050 back end. Thanks

The intelliflow VS3050 does not need a relay to control it with the suntouch. I called pentair yesterday they said it connects using the 4 wire RS232 port to the wires on the pump motor. The pump housing is the same as the wisperflow pump but if you paid for a whole pump why would you get just the motor. I would ask them to give you the pump housing too even if you just store it. I can understand how easy it would be to just switch out the motor. I found the VS3050 for $805 online from several online pool stores using google. My local pool store said they are selling them for $1300 I was shocked how much they were over the online guys I can understand a few hundred.

Yeah, I agree, they are selling it for a lot more than online. As far as the housing, I made them change the pump after the Whisperflo was already installed (which was part of my orginal contract)I only paid the "difference" between the two pumps; which I though should be around $400 (using internet pricing), but they charged me $600. Which according to your numbers above is closer to the retail price difference between the two. They gave us some breaks in other areas, so I wasn't too concerned with the price.

So since the plumbing was already piped into the whisperflo, it made sense just to change out the motor...I just wanted to make sure that it was okay to do that.

Same housing. But, if you go to rebate it through a utility, it will be void as the rebate is driven on the pump serial number which will come back as a WhisperFlo, not a Variable pump. Guessing he did not tell you that.

No, he didn't. However no rebate here in semi-rural maryland. Probably won't have one for years to come. Our Electric Co. is a small Co-op. I think our electric right now is about 14 cents/kWH.

Okay, Repair_guy, I have another question for you if you have the time. I'm finally getting around to installing the Suntouch with a Quicktouch remote, however I went back through this thread and I'm a little confused. I'm taking your suggestions for the most part. I'm looking at using Aux1 for the Pool light, Aux2 for the blower. I'm getting stuck at Aux3. I know this needs to be a filter speed/ valve only; and I was going to assign spillway to Aux3. However, when I was going to assign the Valve C to Cleaner, I saw in the manual that the cleaner function has to be assigned to a circuit, but in this scenario I am out of Aux's to assign it to. Am I missing something?

AUX three is a virtual circuit and you should not have any issue. On this set up, it is only for speed control so you should be able to assign a function to that speed. The function being cleaner.

Ok a little clearer I think, AUX 1&2 would be relays only (light and blower) so I would set AUX3 as Cleaner and assign a pump speed to it. AUX3 would turn valve C and increase the pump for the cleaner. I'm still not sure where I would place the spillway function, which I assume would just turn the return valve to Spa. I may be a little less dense when I actually program it. I'm trying to do all this planning just by reading the manual. Thanks again for all of your advice.