1. Do you have the pump wired into the Easy Touch com port outside?

2. Do you have the relay circuits available to run more than one speed?

3. If so, are they wired?

Assuming correct installation, you just assign the speed you want and program it to a circuit.

FROM THE BOOK:

Settings Menu: IntelliFlo 4
IntelliFlo 4 Variable Speed Pump
This feature allows you to assign a circuit to control the IntelliFlo 4 pump speed. The pump speed can be
adjusted to run from 400 to 3450 RPM in increments of 10 RPM. For more information about the IntelliFlo
pump, refer to the IntelliFlo 4 Installation and UserÂs Guide (P/N 357269).
IntelliFlo 4
To adjust the speed of the IntelliFlo 4 pump:
Up/Down buttons: Select the circuit number 1 of 4 (1/4). The default speed for each
circuit correspond to the four speed buttons on the IntelliFlo control panel. The preset
speed for each button is: Speed 1 button 750 RPM, Speed 2 button 1500 RPM, Speed
3 button 2350 RPM, and Speed 4 button 3110 RPM.
Right button: Move to RPM to change the pump speed.
Up/Down buttons: Set speed of the pump from 400 to 3450 RPM in increments of
10 RPM.
Right button: Move to the circuit names.
Up/Down buttons: Assign the circuit: None, Spa, Pool, Aux1-7 (EasyTouch 8),
Aux 1-3 (EasyTouch 4), Aux Extra (only available if Solar is not enabled - see page
31, Heater, Pool Heater, Spa Heater, Freeze, and
Hi-Speed. "Aux Extra" is only available if the Solar output (J17) plug on the
EasyTouch motherboard is not being used for solar equipment. Use the Down arrow
button to switch the "extra" circuit on and off.
Right button: Press the Up arrow button and go to the next circuit page settings
(2/4) and repeat the previous steps.
When finished setting up the circuits, press the Back button to save the settings
and to return to the Settings menu options. Press the button two times to return to the
main screen.

Maybe I do not have enough relays.. I have everthing wired to the control panel outside and set up with the wireless Easy Touch 4. My circuits are Pool set to Pool, Spa set to Spa, Aux 1 set to Pool Sam, Aux 2 set to Spa Sam and Aux 3 set to yard lights. I am guessing that I do not have enough relays to set a low and high speed up. I was hoping I could set two different speed values to the pool and then set schedules for each.

If you're Easy Touch 4 you don't have space with what you have listed as circuits. If you do not have solar, you can do it but as a technician, I would not direct you into the service panel on your own as you can easily toast a perfectly fine motherboard without knowledge of the DC circuit.

Contact a qualified Pentair tech in your area and tell them you need to enable your 4x160 to the AUX EX socket for an additional speed and have it enabled and programmed.

I ran into the same problem with my Easytouch 4 setup. There is a workaround.

Even though you only have Aux 1-3 available as physical circuits, you can use Aux 4-7 as virtual circuits. Since the Intelliflo communicates via a serial connection, it doesn't care that Aux 4-7 aren't actually switching a load.

The downside is that you can't manually turn on that speed by pushing a button like you can with Aux 1-3.

Maybe Pentair ought to do a little surgery and make the box a little more user friendly?

The programming is indeed somewhat cryptic, but that may be because of my industrial background. I'm used to programming computers and industrial logic controllers. The EZ-Touch is very different. But, it does the job and it is actually quite robust.

Hi Peter,

You have got my interest. Would I asign circuit type 4 to pool on the wireless unit? Then whould I set the speed for circuit 4 and then set a schedule?????

Thanks for the help on the workaround!

Okay, I'll have to remember how I did this. It took me a while to figure it out, and the manual wasn't really helpful.

In the EZ-touch, you can set 4 different speeds for the Intelliflo. My PB had no idea how to program the system, because they are a Hayward shop and I had to insist on the Pentair equipment package. I had a Pentair rep come out to help me and he set up the speeds as follows:

Speed 1 = Spa
Speed 2 = Pool
These speeds were controlled by toggling the VALVE button, which does nothing but switch between Pool and Spa.

Needless to say, this wasn't much help. After giving up on the manual, I proceeded to play around with the programming. So, this is what I did:

Speed 1 = Spa (~1500 rpm)
Speed 2 = Pool (~900 rpm)
Speed 3 = Cleaner (pool vac, ~2000 rpm)
Speed 4 = Pool High (hi-speed, ~2800 rpm)

Then I set the valves as follows:
Valve A = Hi-Temp
Valve B = Cleaner

Now the tricky part is that those are just circuit names. You have to define the circuit before they actually do anything. I set mine up as follows:

Circuit 1 = SPA
Circuit 2 = Pool
Circuit 3 = Aux 1 = Pool Light
Circuit 4 = Aux 2 = Pool High
Circuit 5 = Aux 3 = Cleaner
Circuit 6 = Aux 4 = Hi-Temp

(By the way, I don't have a spa. Instead, my SPA circuit just invokes a different temperature setting. The valve is activated by the Hi-Temp circuit, which triggers Valve A, which diverts water to my heater which is usually offline)

The key thing here is that I only have the 4SC-IC40 model. Most online pool stores refer to this as the "4-circuit" model. The truth is that this model has 10 circuits, but only 4 relays, which means you can only turn 4 things on and off. But, you can take advantage of Aux3 through Aux7 even though you don't have a relay. You can assign a circuit to these "phantom" relays and program it like any other circuit.

In your case, you would program

Circuit 1 = Pool/Spa (this is a valve setting, so it's just a toggle
Circuit 2 = SAM 1
Circuit 3 = SAM 2
Circuit 4 = Yard Light
Circuit 5 = Hi-Speed
Circuit 6 = Lo-Speed

Then in the Intelliflo settings, set

Speed 2 = Lo-Speed
Speed 4 = Hi-speed

Then when you program your schedules, you turn on Hi-Speed for 2 hours and Lo-Speed for 5 hours. Since the Intelliflo is hard-wired (at least it should be, per the installation instructions) all it needs to do is get a signal through the communications cable to switch to either Speed 2 or Speed 4. It doesn't care that Aux4 and Aux5 don't have relays.

I hope this helps. Pentair's programming is pretty convoluted, but at the same time it's also somewhat powerful. It's too bad their user's manual is so vague on how to program this controller.

By the way, this has nothing to do with wireless. The wireless unit is nothing more than a remote keypad.

I didn't buy the wireless remote option, and I set everything up at the control panel.

Peter,
I have been sitting on a box next to my panel all weekend and no luck. What are the circit types that I should asign to the low speed and high speed names?

My current setup

IntelliFlo 4
1/4 = rpm 750 circuit = Pool
2/4 = rpm 1500 circuit = Low Speed
3/4 = rpm 3000 circuit = Spa
4/4 = rpm 3200 circuit = High Speed

Circuit names
1/10 = Circuit: Spa [spa]
2/10 = Circuit: Pool [pool]
3/10 = Circuit: Aux1 [pool sam]
4/10 = Circuit: Aux2 [spa sam]
5/10 = Circuit: Aux3 [yard light]
6/10 = Circuit: Aux4 [High Speed]
7/10 = Circuit: Aux5 [Low Speed]

Circuit Types
[spa]
[spa]

[Pool]
[Pool]

[Pool Sam]
[Generic]

[Spa Sam]
[Generic]

[Yard Light]
[Generic]

[High Speed]
[Cleaner]

[Low Speed]
[Floor Cleaner]

set valves

A: [High Speed]
B: [Low Speed]

Whenever the pool comes on it defults to the #1 speed set on the the Intelliflo for the pool. If I remove the pool from the Intelliflo settings the high and low speed no longer trigger anything.

I spoke to Pentair this morning for about an hour and they are directing me to use the solar relay but I am not real comfortable opening up the box to find relay J17.

I would love to get this work-around going. I can't believe I am the first one with this setup that wants to run two speeds each day on a schedule.

Thanks for looking this over and any advice!

Hmmm, looks like it should work (of course, I'm no expert).

Is your pump hard-wired to the circuit breaker, or is it being controlled by the pump relay? It could be that the electrician who installed your system wired it through the relay. If this is the case, then your pump is not going to come on for for Aux4 and Aux5. A possible fix for this would be to schedule POOL and AUX4 to turn on simultaneously. I'm not sure which speed takes precedence. Maybe if you program Aux4 to turn on 1 minute after POOL, that might work too.

I got Pentair on the phone and each person I spoke with had a different idea. The last one stated I could use the solar block as an aux (since I am not using solar) but when I opened the base of the cabinet I did not find an additional open block. All I want to do is be able to leave the house for a day and not have to manually go out and switch my "programmable" pump from speed 2 to speed 4.I will try Pentair again....

Hey, I suggested that back on Oct.6th!

Repair_guy do you know the steps I would take to accomplish this. I have been in the electronics repiar and rework field for many years and I am good with a meter, jumber wires and buss bars. When I opened the bottom of my box I did not see any open (free) contacts that were not being used. I know I must be missing something easy.

Thanks in advance for any advice!

Another Note: It does appear that my pump is wired to contact one and only recives power when this contact is closed. This means that none of the other contacts can have an intelliflo setting as the pump only recives power when the first contact is closed. In addition when I tried to trick the pump by having a lower speed come on after the pump had started on a different speed this does not work. The pump remains at the setting of the first contact.

concrete,

You need to make sure this pump is wired correctly. Is it wired to the breaker? Is the black serial cable plugged into the pump and wired to the COM port on the EasyTouch?

It should not be going through a relay.....

Brent

If I trace the Hot line coming into my box, first it goes through the breaker to a double breaker. Two hot lines come off this double breaker and go to the first of four total power relays. This first relay in my box is labeled "Filter Pump". On each side of this relay is a line and load wire lug. The line is the hot wires and the load goes out to the pump. I have 120V on each of the line sides and when I turn my pump on at the box I then get 120V on the load side going out to the pump, heater, and chlorinator. I could jump the line to the load side but then would't my pump and accessories always be on?

From the book,

8. The IntelliFlo pump is designed to be permanently connected to its power source. Typically the pump
receives power directly from the circuit breaker. No contactor or motor starter is required. The drive
controls the starting and stopping of the pump. If the IntelliFlo is connected to an automation system, such
as EasyTouch or IntelliComm, the drive must be powered up to receive and respond to the RS-485 serial
communication from the automation system.

If you are trying to do anything from your EasyTouch, you need to wire it correctly. Not through a relay. It can run through the relay, but when it goes off, it will resume at the speed in which it was stopped.

You have to remember that this pump is always on. Whatever you ask it to do from the controller, it will respond from the signal on the rs485 cable which should be connected to the COM port.

repair_guy thanks for all your help. Does this mean I would also wire the chlorinator in an always on setup?

I don't see the chlorinator type anywhere in your posts. I assume its a salt of some sort. If it is salt, you can leave it as is due to the flow switch. It will not work if there is too little flow.

repair-guy,

Are you anywhere near Corona, CA. I need to have someone come out and figure this one out for me. Thanks!

Murrieta. I have no openings until 11/26 though. We're up there a couple of days a week.

Scratch that, I have an IntelliFlo to put in on that day. Try 11/27.

Hello everyone,

I just noticed that Pentair posted some very helpful quick start guides for their automation systems. I have used these successfully when setting up my client's systems:

INTELLITOUCH:
http://www.pentairpool.com/pdfs/intellitouchQSG.pdf

EASYTOUCH:
http://www.pentairpool.com/pdfs/easytouchQSG.pdf

SUNTOUCH:
http://www.pentairpool.com/pdfs/suntouchQSG.pdf

repair _guy I had set an appointment with the local Pentair service tech and his office stated he wouldn't be available until 11/27.His company name starts with the letter "H" I am wondering if you and this guy are the same? small world?

Not me. Who is it? If you went to the Pentair site and specified a repair tech for Corona there are no "H" companies who turn up. It's not a builder is it? Most of them in that area know little about Title 20 or the need to put anything in but a two speed pump. I know the area well as I lived there for 10 years before coming here to Murrieta.

Good luck. Why did you never go back to the guy who installed it to fix your issue?

The company that is supposed to come out is H20 Pro Pool and Spa. I spoke to the guy who wired my pool and he admitted that he is a basic electrician and not up on all the new pool controllers. The H20 guy was called out by my pool builder with an issue we had at startup. The H20 guy put his sticker inside my controller box so I naturally called him back. I think he claims to be the authorized Pentair service rep for the area.

I have him scheduled for the 27th but if you are available and familiar with these units I would much rather have you take a look as you are familiar with problem and what I am trying to accomplish. Also, what would be the charge for a call like this that may require a little re-wiring of my controller box? I am just off the 15 at Cajalco.

Hi Guys,

Still fighting with this one. I had the repair guy out today and he moved the hot wires on the relay over to the load side making my pump and chlorinator always on. He renamed "aux 4" to "cleaner" and set the type as "valve".
He went into the intelliflo and set
#1 as "Pool" 1700 rpm
#2 as "Spa" 3500 rpm
#3 as "Cleaner" 2700 rpm.

The "pool" now comes on at the 1700 rpm, the problem is when "aux 4 / cleaner" comes on it is also at 1700 rpm. When "aux 4" comes on it is blinking and it also turns the pool pump light on at the panel.

I fought with this after he left and I found that when I used AuxXX, the solar aux, this seems to work fine. I would have thought this would have worked on "aux 4" as all we are doing is sending out a signal on the data cable but that is not the case.

I guess the only concern I have now is that the pump and clorinator are always on. I know the pump is in a monitoring mode and the clorinator is not supposed to active unless it is receivng flow but I still wish there was an easier way. I am wondering if I added 1 additional relay to my panel if I could get everthing running off that in a second mode?

I spoke to the Guru Tech at Pentair and he really cleared a lot up for me. First, as everybody has stated the Intelliflo 4x160 must be hard wired and not through the relay as the relay can throw a false signal. It does not matter that the pump light and intelichlor lights are on as this only means they are receiving power.

After doing this I am still unable to set a speed for any of the 4-8 "ghost" switches as the system will default to what ever intelliflo setting is set up for the pool. I did find that if I use the auxxx , solar circuit, I can asign a different speed to that circuit.

This all solves my problem of having two different speeds scheduled during the day! Thanks to everyone who helped me on this :)

I know this might be a little late, but I just bumped into this site today.

What you need to do is remove Pool from your speed setup. I have a IntelliTouch, but this should work for the easyTouch. Set up your speeds for SPA=1500, Pool Low=900, Cleaner=2000, and Pool High=2800. Schedule the pool to run for 7 hours, since Pool has no speed, the RPM will be zero. Also schedule Pool High to start at the same time as Pool for 2 hours, and Pool Low (starting two hours after pool started) for 5 hours. That should get to 2 hours at 2800 and 5 hours at 900.

PS: you said you are near the 15 at Cajalco, you are like 10 miles away from me.