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GE II glue

19 years ago

Ok, So I really hate to ask about this glue again, but I just went to Home Depot to buy some. It comes in a small tube for like 3.44, or you can get it in the large caulking tube thingy for about 5.77. I went ahead and bought the caulking tube size and dispenser because that seemed like the better buy. It is the windows and doors clear silicone sealant II.

I did get the right thing, didn't I?

They didn't have any Welbond like I usually use. That used to be the only place I could get it.

Susan

Comments (29)

  • 19 years ago

    Sounds right. If you wanted clear, make sure it isn't white, been there, done that. Sometimes the packages are the same except for that one word. If you haven't read my and others problems with bad GEII here, check it when it first comes out. If it is kind of cloudy and rough-looking, even if the expiration date is ok, take it back. It will never ever dry. You might also want to experiment with the caulk gun; some of them stop dispensing when you release the trigger; some keep on going. (apologize if you know all this.)

  • 19 years ago

    Susan - on the WELDBOND....I used to get my Weldbond at Home Depot,too, but mine doesn't carry it anymore. I was gonna order it online, but the shipping was more than the Weldbond, and it was just the principal of the thing ... wouldn't pay it. :) ANYWAY....I found it at two different smaller hardware stores...these are small kind of neighborhood hardware stores...so if you have something like that - you might want to give them a try.

  • 19 years ago

    I found the Weldbond at True Value Hardware stores here.
    I tried the caulk gun last week. Just didn't work for me. I'm back to the small tubes, and the pain in my hand squeezing it. I work too slow, and 1/2 the tube was wasted.
    I sqeezed out little amounts on a paper plate, and before I knew it the plate was nothing but dried GEII, and the tube was gone.

    Hazie

  • 19 years ago

    I used GE II for windows and doors again today. This is about my third attempt in the last 2 months. My complaint with it is that it dries so slow! I had to babysit my glass for hours as they would slide down if I didn't. It really slows the project down.

    Today I spread the glue on with a plastic knife so it wasn't excessive. I am doing something wrong? Is the a common problem (the slow drying)? Does the temperature make a difference?

  • 19 years ago

    I'm not having this problem debbie. My glass pieces will stay on a vertical surface immediately. How much are you using? I use just a thin layer & then I press it down to squeeze any air bubbles out. GE II is all I've been using. Susan, I too use the caulking gun with the big tube. I find it so much easier on my hand than squeezing that little tube.

  • 19 years ago

    Susan, I just bought some GE II Window and Door silicone too. (after I'd bought the tub and tile and found it was the wrong one) I'm new to this and have not used it yet. Just wanted to say, I was in a Fred's Dollar store the other day and picked up a small 2oz. Weldbond. $2. Not the best price per ounce, but couldn't find it elsewhere without having to drive a greater distance. Thought I'd mention it in case you have those stores in your area. I'll also try our local, smaller hardware store as recommended. I'm still trying to figure out exactly which glue is best for which project. :) Chris

  • 19 years ago

    Gin, thanks for sharing your experience with GEII. I just can't figure out why I have so many problems with it. I've used it on metal watering cans and on concrete. In all cases it took over 48 hours to dry. I think I will buy a new tube today and give it another try. I hate to sound like a whiner; I'm just trying to find a resolution since so many on this forum use it successfully.

  • 19 years ago

    I find sometimes everything sticks better with GEII, and I don't use as much, if I paint the surface with a mix of Weldbond and water. I always do that on wood and glass. Not an expert but so far, so good. My only problem has been with that one tube of GEII that was cloudy and rough. It never dried.

  • 19 years ago

    I have also found that the tubes have to be kneaded, if you don't it will come out different consistancies and cloudy at times through out the use of the tube.

  • 19 years ago

    curiouser and curiouser...
    I have been staying away from any of the ones mentioned here because I keep reading how it's slow to dry and then someone says if you put in on thinly, that may be the difference..so,
    now with 4 unopened tubes...here's what I have...
    because so far, all I have been using is the container of premixed sanded grout adhesive/grout, in an antique white color...

    I have:
    GEII clear silicone sealer...household glue
    GEII clear " " kitchen and bath, not an adhesive
    Liquid Nails adhesive....small projects waterproof
    Household Goop...contact adhesive and sealant

    so, from this, I can use the kitchen and bath around the tub in the bathroom but forget mosaic projects..lol

    and no one mentions Gorilla Glue, or epoxy...??

    Becky .(*_*).

  • 19 years ago

    You might want to search on that gorilla glue. It's been mentioned in the past - unfavorably

    Maria

  • 19 years ago

    Becky, I have used the GE II Household Glue with success lately. My husband bought it by mistake so I used it and like it.
    My GE II W&D that I was using still has not dried - day 3. I hate to think I have to take everything off but if it's stil moving tomorrow that's what I'll have to do.

    I bought a new tube today so will get busy with my other projects.

  • 19 years ago

    Debbi, if that's not dry already then it's no good. I've been able to grout a GE II project in the same day. Sorry this has happened to you

  • 19 years ago

    As far as I can tell GE II household adhesive & GE II kitchen & bath & GE II windows & doors are all the same thing, with additives in some to prevent mildew & such. I think if the formulations were that different they wouldn't all be called GE II.

  • 19 years ago

    I am so going back to my Weldbond! I got a cramp in my hand from trying to squeeze my caulking gun thingy. Nothing was coming out! Yes, I cut the tip. But then I started to smell the glue and there was this squishy sound..yep, the glue was coming out of the back end! The gun is now a gooey glue mess. I smeared some of the squished out glue onto 4 tiles and got them on the stone. That's the end of the GEII for me. I hate the mess, the smell and the greasy texture.
    I gave it the 'ol girlscout try...
    Susan

  • 19 years ago

    i use weldbond and i use GEII - just depends on what the project is. love weldbond but in florida humidity takes awhile to dry and need to use dryer grout. GEII is great for uneven surfaces and vertical surfaces. like both...barb

  • 19 years ago

    Susan,

    Just in case you did not try it. After you clip off the tip on the tub of GEII you need to run a long nail or?? down into the long tip to poke a hole in the membrane to let the glue come out. If you had to pull that hard on your trigger and glue squished out the back side it sounds like you did not open the front for the glue to come out. That might make a big difference.

    Also when I use a new tube in the gun I squeeze a little out then turn and pull the plunger back to keep it from oozing out on me. I also use a long kitchen thing like for shish K bobs stuck down into the tip of the tube to keep it sealed up between use. Keeps it from drying out on me.I have not seen the tubs with caps on them here.

    I usually just squeeze out little dabs at a time unless I have a long run of big edge tiles that will use it up fast.I use a small knife to spread the glue.

    Chris

  • 19 years ago

    Oh Bama, sorry - there's a foil seal in there that needs to be poked with a nail or wire. Yuc btdt before...

  • 19 years ago

    BAMA: Please try again, taking these tips from above. If you ever get it to work, you won't use anything else. It's WONDERFUL. I use SHADE's method - squeeze a little out at a time and spread w/a fine pointy spreader. It has instant stickability over the Weldbond, and is VERY strong, and is good for outside projects where Weldbond isn't. Try again.

  • 19 years ago

    Well, ok, I'll try again. I do have another new tube. I had to call customer service to figure out how to get the stupid cap off. The chic on the other end was clueless, so she told me just to cut it off. But when I got off the phone with her I finally got it off with pliers! Then I cut the end of the tube off and put the cap back on. I guess maybe it wasn't air tight enough? And now I find out there is a foil seal I have to break too?? Ugh!

  • 19 years ago

    When you cut the end of the tube, take something long/sharp (I use an ice pick) to put down the long tube to break the membrane. It'll WORK - you'll LOVE it.

  • 19 years ago

    Sometimes a visual will help make it easier to see what we are talking about. Hope this helps. I REALLY do not know what this thing is I have stuck in the end of my tube or WHY it was in my kitchen drawer or where it came from. Devine intervention??? <: lol but it works for me. is fairly long as your poker thing goes past the flat edge of tube to make a hole in foil will work. great big nail too. i just liked round on my thing. helps me get hold with out getting silicone all over sort of.i clip tip off large enough so wil fit hole. this keeps from drying when am not using and has lasted several months like this.>{{!gwi}}

    Chris

  • 19 years ago

    hey shades... your whole description sound... ahem... sexy somehow! LOL

  • 19 years ago

    I've tried a lot of 'stoppers' and 'lids' with my GE II. I finally read where someone just lets a little glob out at the end of using it and it hardens and forms it own stopper. So I tried it and it works like a charm. I just pick off the little glob and start using it. It seems like the lids and stuff were always getting goopy (is that a word??) when I tried to remove them and then I would have to clean them off, too. This way works for me but everyone has their own way.

  • 19 years ago

    Hey, Isn't that a Spam can opener???LOL

  • 19 years ago

    I'm not an expert at mosaicing but i've done a few projects now. I like the GE II glue. I did buy another caulk gun - the one that is smooth & not the rachet type. It made a big difference in the amount of waste. You just have to squeeze a little bit for a little to ooze out & not waste half as much.

    I do poke a hole in the glue after I cut the tip off. Otherwise, it will ooze out the other end. It has to come out somewhere with all that pressure.

    I did my cement edgers with ceramic tile & had no problems with it sticking. I just finished mosaicing clay pots - I made mosaic tipsy pots. I didn't post a pic yet because it isn't quite finished. I'm mosaicing a birdhouse to sit on the top. It will be grouted tomorrow & will post pics.

    I noticed with the tipsy pots the GE II didn't work quite as good & the tessarae was sliding. Then I figured out why. It's the tessarae. Then after doing the birdhouse I know it is. The ceramic tiles are porous & so the glue is sucked up faster. The birdhouse is all china & was sliding all over the place & taking way longer to dry. I would have been grouting already if I had used ceramic tile. The china is still wiggly so definately will not do until tomorrow.

    The clay pots are a mixture of both & again it was the dishes that were sliding & not the ceramic tile. Next time I will try the Weldbond mixture if using dishes or china. Thanks for the tip about the Weldbond mixture.

    Cacbeary

  • 19 years ago

    Be careful on the Weldbond. It re-hydrates outside, and I've NEVER heard anyone recommend it for outside projects. For sealing terra cotta before mosaicing - when I can THINK of it - I use Quickcrete brand of masonry/concrete sealer. It's water-based. Also, Drylock - a masonry/concrete sealer - I've used. Both very good.

  • 18 years ago

    bumping some good reference threads so they don't fall off...thanks for this one, bama!

  • 18 years ago

    This explains a lot for me thanks for the tread! PJ

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