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Shower marble issue

11 years ago
I need input please. What is wrong with this shower floor marble/grout and what do I need to do?

Comments (24)

  • 11 years ago
    High iron content in the marble. It's rusting. Nothing short of tearing it out will do a thing.
  • PRO
    11 years ago
    Sophie's on the case once again! Not much can be done for this. This is the stone = why marble isn't the best choice for shower flooring.
  • PRO
    11 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago
    This rust line is forming on a grout joint. When I see marble affected by iron in the marble itself the entire piece is effected. I would suspect this effect is from the rusting of a low grade metal reinforcement in the deck mud.

    Once the floor is removed you might even find something like a rebar piece in that area or some random steel.

    Do you have process pictures of the build?

    Have your read this idea book of mine?

    https://www.houzz.com/magazine/why-marble-might-be-wrong-for-your-bathroom-stsetivw-vs~12133357
  • PRO
    11 years ago
    Another possibility is tool shavings being washed into the grout joint. Many times plumbers need to cut pipes and such. If this happened over your finished floor or prior to grouting you could have small filings that are causing this.
  • PRO
    11 years ago
    Any chance the stain is down stream of the fixtures? Can you send a larger photo showing the entire space?
  • PRO
    11 years ago
    Another possibility is that a scraper blade was used to clean the grout joints prior to grouting and not vacuumed up. Many metals are such low grade these days they rust easy. I would suggest you remove the grout between these tiles. Vacuum everything really well.

    Vacuum again using a stainless steel tool to vibrate any stuck particles and try re-grouting the area.

    I would need to see the drain and process pictures of the build to help anymore.

    So sorry you are in this pickle.

    Heads Up - you might just fix this.....
  • 11 years ago
    Thank you for the help. Very informative. We did not install this shower and will certainly reconsider marble shower flooring if we have a choice. At this point I want to just turn the shower into a linen closet...
  • PRO
    11 years ago

    Really. One stain line and you want to abort on the entire shower? Tough Love.

    rserpico thanked By Any Design Ltd.
  • 11 years ago

    No, no, no. If you need a linen closet, then voice inside your head should say you got to many linens ...make it into a bookcase instead :))) Just kidding


  • 11 years ago
    Try using Whink. Wear gloves and apply it with a q - tip VERY CAREFULLY!!!!! Seriously...... dab quickly with just a tiny bit on the q-tip. It is hydrogen floride and will burn your hands. Wipe floor with baking soda rinsed out rag throw the rag away when done.
  • 11 years ago
    It it works then apply a sealer.
  • PRO
    11 years ago

    Since marble is not good for showers, you better try to take out the rust first with CLR after leaving the shower to dry for at least 24 hours. Then you need to call back your installer and ask him to put 2 coats of sealer. You will have to seal it yourself at least once a year . Good luck!

    rserpico thanked Studio NOO Design
  • 11 years ago

    There could not possibly be any worse advice than using a strong acidic cleaner on marble. Marble is calcium carbonate, and is *dissolved* by acids. That is what etching *is*. Using any acidic cleaner as strong as hydrochloric or lactic acid would be an even worse disaster than currently exists. It would damage marble so severely as to create a need for immediate replacement.


    If you don't kow anything about stone then don't give advice. You could have just totally ruined some lurker's stone if they took that advice.

    rserpico thanked User
  • 11 years ago

    Just stop. Enthusiastic bad advice is still bad advice. There is no product that will successfully remove rust from marble without damaging it. Light surface contaminations can occasionally be honed from the surface, and then the entire stone be resurfaced. That is not what the problem is here.

  • PRO
    11 years ago

    Bad advice gets circled round and round. Retold so many times people start to believe it's true. We live in a world where people think it's OK to build showers and shower curbs with drywall as a backer board. Crazy.

  • PRO
    11 years ago

    Just was stumbled upon this post, at first for me it was looked very
    familiar picture. Then I realized what it is the shower floor I have restored
    recently (I am business), hello to rserpico/Rose ;).

    So below the other pictures "before" and "after", it was removed by sanding out that build up, then marble polishing to original finish and re grouting affected lines.

    I don't think it could be properly fixed by not professional, the marble under the buildup was deeply corroded and deep sanding was required. The grout was damaged too.

    Here is the link for the service to solve similar issues: http://www.marblerestoration.us/shower-works.htm



  • PRO
    11 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    How long before you think the problem comes back? The grout lines now look worse than before in the second photo.

  • PRO
    11 years ago

    The grout was just applied and still wet and looks darker, as you know it will need up to 24 hours to dry and cure. As I remember it was antique white or similar color. This project was included the grout repair not the entire floor re grouting, I fixed only damaged/stained/missed grout.

    It is not possible to say for sure when it will appear again or will appear at all. I believe it is either hard water deposits (like on bottom of teapot) or kind of adhesive (or part of its chemical composition) what soaking up through the grout pores or micro cracks in grout.

    I don't think it was happened in a few months, more likely it was little by little "growing" during a few years. Just my thoughts, I can be wrong.

  • 11 years ago
    I am having a marble shower installed. Could someone please explain to me what is the right base for the floor and what kind of grout to use?
    Thanks so much!
  • PRO
    11 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    @life4real: you will have better results if you post your own thread in the design dilemma side of things. "Other" is rarely visited.

  • PRO
    11 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    "...Could someone please explain to me what is the right base for the floor and what kind of grout to use?..." - life4real

    First thing is you best Soak Test your Marble Tile and do those basic checks.

    Best base would be in my opinion a 2" Mortar bed reinforced with 16 gauge 2"x2" galvanized mesh and Laticrete's 3701 Mortar bed. Then Permacolour Grout also by Laticrete. I would set the Marble with Laticrete 254.

    Not sure what someone else would do but this is how I would do it.

    For my shower pan I would have a pre-slope, NobleSeal CIS, my extra drainage channels overtop of that and a Positive weep hole protector.

    Flood Test is mandatory. All water should drain away after.


    It would be even better to replace the Marble with porcelain tile.

  • 11 years ago
    Thank you so much!