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Blah! Things Changing Again, Need Help W/Flooring

16 years ago

So, after swearing I was going to keep my beautiful nearly 100 year old encaustic tile floor, I find that it is in such poor condition that saving it and trying to replicate the area which does not contain it will be so much money that it is just out of my budget.

I'm sucking it up and trying to come up with another solution. My initial thought was to lay Marmoleum over it. I do like this material a lot and, it would be appropriate for my Craftsman home. However, in talking to my KD he mentioned that in a couple of years, this material would wind up showing pitting being such a soft material, from the concrete under it). Not good.

He said the best bet would be to lay ceramic tile over. I can live with this. However, I'm not sure what direction to go with it since ceramic tile is not something which would be found in and Arts and Crafts home on the floor.

Any ideas? My cabinets have been ordered, Quarter Sawn

Red Oak in a darker tone (Kaffe, from Kraftmaid, with rivets in the corners). Still haven't decided about the counters yet but may be going for Ceaserstone in Limestone or Jerusalem Sand, honed finish.

Thanks, as always!

Comments (9)

  • 16 years ago

    sivyaleah,

    If you can handle the limited palette of the click marmoleum, the cork on the back keeps a rough(er) subfloor finish from telegraphing through.

  • 16 years ago

    I'm going to look it up right now!

  • 16 years ago

    Huh? It must be regional. Ceramic tile is definitely found in Arts and Crafts kitchens around here.

    But...how about putting in new encaustic tiles?

  • 16 years ago

    You could probably get away with something as simple as terra cotta tiles. I don't know how much this company is but they have simulated encaustic in a limited palette, and a 4" hex, which might be nice. They also have a pattern called "Hopscotch", which I like a lot.

    Hokey name though.

    Here is a link that might be useful: Olde English Tiles, USA

  • 16 years ago

    Hi, just reading about your dilemma. We can make encaustic cement tiles that have the look of old porcelain encaustic tiles. You can choose your own pattern and colors. We can do hex tiles too, in any of our 88 colors.
    One of the geometric patterns in subtle shades might be a good choice for a craftsman home. Check out our fabo greens.

    Here is a link that might be useful: Villa Lagoon Tile--Classic Cement Tile

  • 16 years ago

    I think the problem with laying new cement tile, over the old cement tile is going to be one of height. The old tile is 1" thick, over a mortar bed making it extremely high already. We can NOT take out the old tile, it will cost me way too much money to have it removed, as I already mentioned, hence the idea of just laying ceramic/porcelain tile over it which is quite thin in comparison to cement tile, or at least as far as I've seen. Let alone adding even more weight of cement to the floor.

  • 16 years ago

    The problem of height would also apply to the marmoleum click, sadly.

    With regard to linoleum in general, do you mean that the concrete under the linoleum is uneven and would cause problems with the linoleum? Or something else? An uneven substrate would cause problems with ceramic tiles as well.

    In terms of period appropriateness, I think that a ceramic tile would look fine as long as the palette was appropriate.

  • 16 years ago

    Yes, the concrete is the problem but due to it being "unclean" more than uneven. We can fix that.

    I already had to nix the Marmoleum, due to the fact that I was informed by the KD and my Architect that it would start to "pit" in a few years. The tile is in poor condition, being nearly 100 years old and the prior Owner had laid vinyl tile over it. There is adhesive stuck to it, layers of dirt and who knows what else. We already know we could never clean it up well enough to receive the Marmoleum, which requires a squeaky clean layer underneath (I already have some background using the material so I'm aware of this, I had just forgotten until reminded).

  • 16 years ago

    Holy moly! I just called one of the companies which does recreations of encaustic tile. They get $24 a square foot, which translates to like $5000 for my floor *gulps*. Without shipping!

    Now there is a choice I will not be making!

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