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18 years ago

This issue is starting to drive me crazy, because I feel like the only one who has it. But I can't be! I need help from this forum.

I have selected giallo ornamentale granite for my counters. It's light--creams and browns. I absolutely love it--but it stains.

As I posted in another thread, I discovered that food stains seem to come up reasonably well from a sealed sample, but MARKER is another story entirely. Even washable marker left a stain when left on for 12 hours. It took me hours of soaking it with a bleach-based cleanser to get the stain out. And I never entirely removed the stain left by regular Crayola marker.

The granite salesman convinced me to try again. He swears that no one has had a problem with stains on this granite, and he agreed that marker is a common product and should not leave a permanent stain. He sent me home with another sample, this time sealed with his "bulletproof" sealant. I tried the marker test again, and was horrified. After only two hours, the regular Crayola marker left a stain that I am having to once again soak in bleach cleanser for hours. Even the washable marker required some extra attention after only two hours. Worse, the regular marker left a stain requiring special treatment after only TWO MINUTES!

I am beside myself. Clearly, I cannot get this stone, even though I love it. I have kids, and it is just unrealistic to expect that they will never ever get a dot of marker on the counter--especially when I've designed the kitchen so that they can do such projects at the island. I don't want to live in a house where I have to hover anxiously over my kids every time they get the markers out.

But why does no one else seem to have this problem??? I haven't heard from anyone here that marker is a problem, and certainly the salesman was reassuring about it, and he has no incentive to encourage me to buy something that I won't be happy with. Do other people bar markers from the kitchen? Does everyone with kids have extra dark stone? I honestly don't get this.

Comments (21)

  • 18 years ago

    Is the stone you are testing resined? It does not sound like it is. Try a sample from a different supplier. Also - an alcohol poultice might do better at removing marker stains. Try that too :)

  • 18 years ago

    Hi Stonegirl,

    What is resined?

    Unfortunately, this second sample actually IS from a different supplier. :-( I also hoped that a different supplier with a different sealant might solve the problem.

    Thanks.

  • 18 years ago

    I've heard that some stones need two or three applications of sealer. It sounds like this one needs more sealing.

    However you could also get a less absorbent stone.

    Was that the washable Crayola markers? When buying art supplies for my granddaughter, I was going to buy the Crayola twist up markers (no cap to lose) but the box didn't say washable. Some of the Crayola markers are washable and some aren't.

    We do let our granddaughter use the washable Crayola crayons or markers when coloring at our granite counter. Ours is a low absorption one (even though it has some white and light colored areas - some lightish stones aren't porous even if that is more common in the darker ones). Of course she is suppose to stay on the paper with them but since she is just over a year old, she doesn't always manage to do that and it cleans up fine.

  • 18 years ago

    I was told Friday in Atlanta that now about 85% of slabs are resined. Resined means it has been coated with a clear poly urethane epoxy, then buffed off, the resin fills the pits and voids in the stone leaving a smooth surface. However I was told that 99% is supposed to be buffed off leaving only the voids filled.

  • 18 years ago

    The resin must leave a thin layer all over. Our granite is resined (Golden Beach/Roman Gold) and is impervious to stains. We've left red wine, berry juice, and yes, even permanent marker and they've all come off easily. Our granite has been in for over 2 years, I've never resealed, and there is not one stain. And with 3 kids and a messy husband, that is saying alot! So what I'm saying is keeping looking, and ask around at the granite yards. If you're really worried about staining, go for a resined slab or a darker, different granite.

  • 18 years ago

    Our KD says to use methyl hydrate to remove 'any' stain from granite. She told me red wine had seeped under the espresso machine and sat there for 2 weeks over the holidays before it was noticed. Came up easily with methyl hydrate. I guess its worth a try.

  • 18 years ago

    Resin gets applied at the slab plant before they polish the slabs. The resin then gets polished off and you will NOT have a layer, film or any visible residue on the surface of your granite. The resin will only be in the pores and fissures of the stone.

    This really helps with absorption issues and the marker problem you had just sounds very strange

  • 18 years ago

    Is this resin thing similar to the 15-year sealants like Sensa that I see advertised?

  • 18 years ago

    I had 2 samples of granite here. One coated, one not. I marked them both with a sharpie. The one that was coated it came off easily, the one not mostly came off, I never got it 100% off. This was after only 5 min. So maybe your samples were not coated. Take the marker to the warehouse along with some alcohol and ask if you can try on the edge of a coated stone. You can tell a coated slab by looking at the edge, the coated one will have some run off somewhere on the edge. Looks like clear polyurethane.

  • 9 years ago

    I'm having the same issue with Colonial White. A blue washable Crayola marker has stained my granite on my island in a noticeable area. It makes me so sad. I've tried peroxide, acetone, magic eraser, etc. The marker was only on there for a few hours.

  • PRO
    9 years ago

    Hollie Singleton: Google Dr. Fred's Blu-Be-Gone at www.BraxtonBragg.com.

  • 9 years ago

    Mmme, which bleach-based cleaner did you use? I am having the same problem trying to remove green Crayola washable marker from my giallo ornamental. I just can't get it off! I appreciate any suggestions you can give me.

  • 9 years ago

    Hollie, any luck?

  • 9 years ago

    Okay, all teachers know how to remove permanent marker from white boards, desks, whatever:

    When a kid writes a dirty word on something in my classroom, I just take a dry erase marker and write OVER the offending word ... the two inks chemically combine ... and then it's easy to erase them.

  • 9 years ago

    No luck! The mark is still there.

  • 7 years ago

    anyone every find a solution? a black crayola was left in water for over 12 hrs on my daughter's WEEK OLD fantasy brown leathered bathroom counter. I am just sick. It is horrible. Nothing has touched it.

  • PRO
    7 years ago

    Have you tried an acetone poultice?

  • 7 years ago

    actually straight bleach for 8 hrs worked! I am so relieved!

  • PRO
    7 years ago

    Good for you. I'll write that trick down in my book. Thanks.

  • PRO
    4 years ago

    You have to get the hydrogen peroxide from the beauty supply store, #40. The stuff from the drugstore is just too weak.