Would you consider a range and eliminate the wall oven?

yep, that is one idea i had thought of - keep 'em coming

oh and one more question- do you think the Karbon faucet would work in this kitchen? I so love that faucet but did not get for the kitchen we just redid because I knew we were selling the house and was not sure others would love it. so have been waiting to be able to get it - your thoughts?

Here is a link that might be useful: new carolina kitchen sink and faucet

oh, and if we relocated the cooktop to the wall of cabinets (or get a range) we also need a hood. given the modern style of this kitchen, was thinking one of those cool stainless hoods etc so ideas about that also welcomed!

To help others. I can see the range going to the left of the drawer stack. You'd scoot the door cab (between the ovens and drawer stack) down toward the end. I'm not sure what is behind the island... a desk?

Are you redoing the whole kitchen from the floor up?

I'd try the microwave to the left of frig either in wall cab or under counter[drawer?] work a range or cooktop/oven at the end of run closer to dining area where wall oven is.
A stylish hood will be a nice feature there. Sink seems to be in a good spot-I'd try to keep that run of cabs on the wall to the left of sink-above dishwasher i presume-for main dish storage.Something island-like can still be placed in middle of kitchen.When you move away from windows the space looks a little dark-maybe just the photo, but are you aiming to keep it light??

Your kitchen is from a period that was the last gasp of modernism in American vernacular architecture, and has a bit of Post-modern influence. In the 80s residential architecture for the masses morphed into a transitional state where the house contained contemporary forms and volumes but had traditional detailing.

People were still building modernist or contemporary houses but it was on a more individual basis.

Stylistically I would probably create something similar in spirit to what exists but with better materials and layout. (The 80s was also a time of high-interest rate architecture: basicbasic materials)

Hi, here is view from other side of kitchen

Here is a link that might be useful: new carolina kitchen - view from other side

remodelfla, I may not have answered your question - across from the island on the other side is a bar, wine rack, cabinet for liquor (these folks had their priorities straight) will attach more pix below

Here is a link that might be useful: new carolina kitchen pix

You can easily put the Karbon faucet in here unless you move the sink. With the sink in the corner and the deep shelving in behind with the windows the space can take it. Sometimes people put one of those things in and don't have the space to accommodate it - you do.

thanks all,

no we are not thinking of doing whole kitchen- just considering the island issue. I like an island to be clear so can be used for prep work, having a snack, serving for parties etc.

The house was built in 1988 for the folks we are buying from- their architect daughter designed it. its actually very filled with light . We will get all the plans when we settle.

we have so much storage(in kitchen and in fabulous walk in pantry) that I am thinking of taking out that tall cabinet with MW and wall over, and extending the counter top over - if you face that tall cabinet, there is a door to the kitchen from outside there - i think the tall cabinet is a bit heavy in that location.

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How lavish a budget? How many cooks? How much actual cooking? How urgent do you feel the redo should be? You have a very good clean well-lighted place here. No fair saying that a white refrig is a culprit. Not sure why you're redoing this kitchen. The GW "wisdom" which disapproves of cooking on an island shouldn't apply to one that does not have seating. Is there a vent on the cooktop unit?

Why not live here a while and enjoy this very good kitchen? It appears to have good traffic flow, good lighting, good work triangle.

Florantha, good points all. not very lavish budget, me only cook, except for holidays/parties when friends help out.

white fridge will go into pantry as extra one; likely to get frenchdoor bottom freezer one (we have one now in house we are leaving just love it) do not want to redo whole kitchen just thinking about the island.

but you are right, we will live with it for a while!

you all always get me thinking!

I would probably simply remove the tall oven cabinet and the one next to it, put a range hood over it and modify or remove the other upper cabinets. and then put back the base unit to the Left of the range, and put in new laminate countertops after I removed the cooktop.

A French door fridge may be unnecessary because the french doors will be skinny. that looks like a 32-33" fridge.

I think the simplest is going with a range and hood where the wall oven is currently. I think that will open up the space more and since you already have plenty of cabs, you would not miss the extra storage.
You can move the micro to where the wine rack is and store the wine in the pantry. I would imagine using the micro in the kitchen more often than taking a bottle out of the rack. I am not a font of knowledge about wine, but I do suppose that it should be kept lower to the ground in a kitchen where the circumstances allow. Higher up may mean warmer temps.

While I am a fan of white appliances, I agree that white fridge does not work in your kitchen.

Basically, you can get by with a new fridge, range, hood and island top. I'd put the micro on a shelf so when the time comes to replace, and we all know it will, you are not bound to one model/size. I got a nice stainless micro shelf from webstaurant.com, but a plain shelf would do as well.

I really like the Karbon. Except for its non standard hole side. You may have to get someone to drill a bigger hole for you.

I understand your issue with the cooktop...especially since it's a gas cooktop. There isn't much room behind the cooktop for a "safety zone" and the aisle behind it doesn't appear very generous. For me, a minimum of 18" (24" ideal) would be needed behind that cooktop with no seating (if there were, then a minimum of 24"). On the sides, a minimum of 24" on each for workspace, landing space, and general safety margin as well.

As others have said...

• Remove tall oven cabinet

• Move cabinet w/doors (not drawers) and associated upper to where the tall oven cabinet currently is.

• Put a range + hood in the now empty space b/w the drawer base and the cabinet w/a door.

Then...

• Move the prep sink to the island (but, may require more work than you're willing b/c of adding plumbing...is the house on a slab or is there a basement?)

• A MW could go on the side the counter run that currently has the prep sink...or, you could make part of that run into a Message Center. Do you use the MW often? If not, would it work in the pantry?

If you cannot move the prep sink, then you will, unfortunately, have a "barrier island" b/w the prep sink and range. This means your Prep Zone will most likely end up b/w the corner cleanup sink and the range...with the DW in the middle of it. If you're very disciplined and never load/unload the DW while prepping and cooking, this may not be an issue for you, but I think for most people it would.

Good luck in your new home!

I'm not sure if this is still an active post or not but I wanted to point out that your cooktop looks like it's a downdraft through the floor to the outside. That means that the ductwork is already in. If you want to move it to somewhere else, the ceiling will need to be ripped open to run duct work above for a range hood.

It's exactly like mine, which is why we're leaving it as is. The ceiling downstairs is a beautiful coffered one and we can't stand the thought of messing it up.