Look at the specs that came with your range -- they will say exactly where the gas and electric must go for the range to install properly.

You'll have to have the plumber (and electrician perhaps) come back and make it right.

All the best

The specs clearly show the gas pipe not up against the wall. The thing is, ours is a NYC apartment from the 50s, and that's the way the pipe is. I don't know what can be done. The electrical is fine where we have it. But this old pipe that is coming out of the wall is in the way!

{{!gwi}}

As I posted on the appliance forum, you most likely will need to have the plumber reroute the gas pipe through the wall behind the range or under the floor beneath the range.

Are you remodeling? If so, you could do a bumpout of the cabinets adjacent to the range to make it look planned. Maybe put a couple of 6" pullouts flanking the range pulled out so they look 30" deep or so...

If not remodeling, then what did you do before? Did you have an unusually shallow range? Is the new one an unusually deep one?

Hi, there. We are remodeling. And basically the cabinets are all already installed. It's a narrow galley kitchen, so we can't have anything coming out anymore than it already is. The fact that this range is sticking out 4 inches from the back wall puts it in what almost feels like the middle of our kitchen galley! So unfortunately doing something to hide it with the cabinets is out of the question.

We had a slightly shallower range before. And it did have a gap behind it. But I honestly never really noticed how big of a gap it was! Our range used to be flush up against a side wall. We moved the range 8 inches over, so now it is away from the side wall and there is a narrow side cabinet there now. But re-positioning the range didn't cause this problem. It actually seems like it would have always been a problem, but I never noticed!

Your plumber/gas guy can reroute the pipe into the wall; at least that's what we did. It wasn't a really big deal, but then again we have direct access up into that wall from our basement. Best to ask the professional's advice on site; there might be solutions we can't see from here.

good luck!

But that's what I don't understand...what does rerouting mean? The contractor does not want to dig into the wall to change the connection, because that would entail shutting off the gas in our entire co-op building or somesuch travesty like that. Is that what rerouting entails? We live in an apartment building, where moving any gas line would be a pretty huge deal.

Unfortunately yes, that's exactly what it means.

But honestly, this kind of thing has to be done all the time for remodeling projects and I'm sure your co-op board has a provision/procedure for it. Sounds like a real pain now, but I can't imagine you (or any potential buyers) would be happy with the stove sticking out that far for the next 20 years.

Courage! :-)

Is it possible to just dig a channel/bed to push the pipe into so it can sit further back? So it's all still exposed, just pushed back into a recess in the wall? And just leave everything as is??

Probably not since the pipe is solid and attached inside the wall.

Our gas pipe had to be moved a few inches over to accomodate the range. Every range has a different "cut out" area in back to accomodate the gas pipe and electric outlet. If you can't get your pipe moved enough to accomodate your range, another (expensive) option may be to look for another range that has a clearance area in back that will accomodate the pipe.

yes, you will need to get the gas shut off to get it fixed. kind of concerning that your contractor would think that solution is acceptable. bite the bullet and get it done right and once the kitchen is done have your neighbors over for cocktails as a thank you for their flexibility! remind them the day will come when they will need the same flexibility in return and you will be happy to accomodate.

It looks like they cut the cabinet next door, too - the actual connection point looks to be behind or inside of that cabinet. I'm not sure its possible to hook up the range at all.

You've only got a couple choices here:
a. If the range can be connected at all - run the flex line to the connection, build a ledge behind the range and move on.

b. Move the pipe and the cabinet.

c. If the contractors completely buried the place where the connection could be made, be firm and insist that it be redone.

calyp

Sorry about your mishap

A few things:

- Who did the design?
Assuming the gas line was a known (not buried in a wall) this issue should go back to whomever did the design as that should have been under consideration from the start.

- I wonder if there is a shut off valve to your individual apartment? - that would eliminate having to shut the entire building off - Typically that is code that you would have individual shut off valves.

- "rerouting" simply means a plumber would cut the gas pipeline & reroute it to a more suitable location - you are going from a rigid pipe (black) to a flexible one (corrugated stainless steel one)in current pic

The IBC - International Building Code must be adhered to when installing flex gas line - There is uniform code & then specific to NYC

Probably more information than you would like

http://www.nyc.gov/html/dob/html/news/cons_code_hearing_comm.shtml

I would rec posting this on the Plumbing forum - there are licensed prof plumbers there that may give you more specific advice
"lazypup" is usually there & a great source

http://ths.gardenweb.com/forums/plumbing/

Good luck

Like you, I live in a NYC 1950s coop and have a galley kitchen. Like you, I bought a new stove that does not go flush against the wall because of the gas pipe behind stove. Like you, the coop does not want to shut off the building's gas, so work can be done in my apartment. Could you describe what your plumber did to fix this problem and/or forward me his/her contact information, in the event my current plumber cannot figure it out?

Like the two of you, and now 5 years later, we are facing the same problem. Could either of you share your solution and/or plumber's contact information or anything else helpful? Thanks.

cjk1nyc:

Replacement appliance shoppers need to think comprehensively. Too often they max the budget on the appliance itself and forget that they may have to pay for mechanical alterations for a proper installation. I've seen this several times.

I’m having war with Home Depot who’ve sent 3 crews and a plumber out who all reported that the Samsung gas range i bought cannot be installed, yet they don't want to do a return either!

calypsochick what did they do we have the same problem and they are talking about big bills of running new gas/electric etc...please help! thanks

we've got same problem. nyc condo,gas pipe is high and 4 inches from wall. Returned first stove. Need a shallow depth stove with cutout in back for the 19 inches of pipe. Building won't turn off gas to move pipe.

OP, what was the resolution? I have the same issue

" Building won't turn off gas to move pipe." While it's not a recommended procedure, you don't have to turn the gas off to change the pipe configuration. It's not a water line; you can stop gas with your hand or finger.

Or a rubber bung plug from the hardware store.