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kitchen wall not level... granite question

18 years ago

We are in the midst of a kitchen DIY - we have removed all cabinetry to discover that our longest wall is not level and curves up to 1/2 inch out (specifically out of the room rather than towards the center). We previously had laminate countertops with laminate backsplash attached. We now are replacing with granite tops and tile backsplash.

Will the granite fabricator be able to take our curved wall into account when cutting the granite? Now that we are ready to install cabinetry & I'm concerned that the granite is going to be cut straight and we are going to have up to a 1/2 inch gap between the edge and the wall. Anyone else had this problem?

Thank you

Comments (13)

  • 18 years ago

    They can do it, but it will probably end up costing you more. When they come out to template, make sure you point it out to them so they can make the template correctly. MANY houses are out of square. They shouldn't be, but they are.

  • 18 years ago

    YES! It is very common & it happens ALL the time. The granite will be cut straight & they will adjust your walls. Often they cut into the drywall or sometimes backerboard needs to be added before the tile backsplash. They may choose to float a wall prior to installation to fix the problem. Walls are rarely perfectly straight. Make sure you have a good installer:)

  • 18 years ago

    Mommyto4 - are you saying the granite installers may correct the walls? We are doing all the work ourselves with the exception of the granite

    thanks for the response

  • 18 years ago

    they probably won't correct the walls, but they might just cut a notch into the wall where it sticks out a bit and then slide the granite into the wall a half inch or so. that way you don't have a gap and you get a nice tight fit.

    it shouldn't be a problem. make sure you point it out to them when they're templating.

  • 18 years ago

    I doubt your granite installers will do it. Our walls also were not straight. Part of our problem was the bay window framing...it stuck out further than the wall on one side. I even pointed it out to the templater and he told me not to worry that they would take it into account when they fabricated...well surprise (hah!)...they did not.

    [The templater just used some white heavy duty cardboard-like pieces that he shoved against the walls...he didn't really mark off where or by how much the walls differed...that's why I didn't trust his assurances!]

    When the installers got there, there was a gap so big that I could put my fingers down the opening...and they were going to just to leave it & caulk it that way! I said no, so the installers first cut into window frame to fix part of the problem and then they ground down the granite on-site to fit the rest. I can still put my fingertips in it, but it's much better. There was talk that our contractors, not the granite installers, would build out the wall to close the remaining gap, but that never happened (again, big surprise...not!)

  • 18 years ago

    jdechris,

    SOME fabricators have the new technology to digitally templat the walls and a CnC machine to cut the scribe perfectly.

    Others do not have that technology. Then the will put a straight piece of granite against your bowed walls.

    If you are planning any kind back splash then this will remedy the problem. There are many methods to fill the gap.

    But be sure to mention it to the fabricator when he templates. He can add a bit of depth to the tops, then cut them into the drywall as mentioned above.

    Blessings

  • 18 years ago

    Thanks for the responses. I kinda live 'in the sticks' and am worried that I will not find a fabricator with the technology to get a perfect fit. If my wall curved out probably the issue would not be as concerning as the fact that it curves in. I'm trying to talk my boyfriend into filling in with mud... he says we will need A LOT of mud :)

  • 18 years ago

    I would ask fabricators what their solution will be BEFORE you hire them. The least expensive and those with the less advanced equipment may not be willing to do more than caulk or suggest adding a backsplash and tile to try to cover it. If you are not satisfied with the answers, suggest they notch the drywall and make sure that is noted in the price quote and contract. If they don't routinely do it they may "forget". Then make sure it is done before paying them. Some may require 50% or the cost of the granite up front and the rest upon completion. Do NOT use anyone that requires full payment up front unless you use a major credit card and have it spelled out in the contract. If you use someone like HD or Lowes I would use an independent MC, Visa or something like that if possible. I found out from SEARS that even using MC is no help if it is a SEARS MC because MC must please SEARS to keep the account, not you. I am sure the same goes for a HD or Lowes card. There are some benefits to using the stores card, that you might decide out weigh other considerations.

    Good Luck

    Sue

  • 18 years ago

    The best option would be to straighten the wall before you install the cabinets. That will also simplify the cabinet installation.

  • 18 years ago

    A good fabricator will scribe to the walls, whether he uses digital templating or makes a physical template it should be no problem, just make sure you discuss it up front and the contract states that it will be scribed. Many fabricators are fly by nighters or deep discounters who really don't care about the finished product. Just make sure you know what you are getting, everyone's walls are crooked, just make sure cabinets are level and plumb and you should be good to go.

  • 18 years ago

    I too live in the sticks and I have just had granite installed and I'm so please with the perfect fit of the granite. It is installed against uneven slightly out of square walls. Our templator said no one has perfect walls. They used the digital technology and it really fits perfectly, just the tiniest bead of caulking behind the granite against the walls. I would look until you find a fabricator that can meet your needs.

  • 18 years ago

    Check with your local installers, if in the sticks they won't be able to use the $$$$ digital machines & will most likely do a straight cut for the "wall" edge. It really isn't a problem, most are done this way. Are you having a tile backsplash? If you are---all imperfections can be fixed this way. Also they do often cut into the drywall & push the granite into the wall where needs be to "straightened" out. A backsplash will be needed to cover this up too. Also, don't worry about the walls for your cabinets...installers are all to use to installing cabinets on not so perfect walls. Yours will turn out great Just question the installer & get a good feel that they know what they are doing.

  • 18 years ago

    Our granite fabricators/intallers cut into the drywall in areas where the wall bowed out. Then our builder floated the backsplash wall until it was perfectly straight, so we ended up with a granite countertop of uniform depth back to front once the backsplash tile was installed.

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