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First time help with kitchen layout

15 years ago

We are in the beginning phases of designing our floorplan for a new build on a 30 acre farm. Our kitchen dimensions/placement shouldn't change too much more as we move forward. I would love to get your feedback at this stage. I am debating whether to include an island in the center. I think there is enough room to work around it. I have 3 young kids and we cook at home a lot. We like to entertain casually, and I think there will be several cooks in the kitchen as my kids get older. In the following pic, the mudroom entrance is to the right along with my office, so most of the usual traffic will be coming from this hallway. The pantry is located off of this hall, too. There is a dining room in front of the kitchen with a butler's pantry (cabinets on each side) going from kitchen to dining. To the left is the family room and the entry foyer. The breakfast nook is behind the kitchen. A few things I know I would like is trash/recycling beside the sink to the left. Dishwasher to the right. All drawers for storage below counters. Room for upright cookie sheet/pan storage.

One crazy question... have you ever seen a slide-out tray for a stand mixer? I am thinking the "dead space" behind the range wall under the stairs could be used this way. Keep in mind there will be built-ins for the butler's pantry on one end.

Thank you in advance for any suggestions you have!!!! I am excited to hear from you.

Comments (8)

  • 15 years ago

    OT--I, too, am in the process of redesigning my kitchen. Could you tell me what program you used to create your layout? Very informative!!

  • 15 years ago

    Where is the breakfast nook? Behind the stairs? Will there be any divider other than the island between the DR and FR? Are you designing an open floor plan?

  • 15 years ago

    Do you definitely want a raised bar? Most people on here have advocated the benefits of a counter height bar instead of a raised bar. This is especially true for projects with kids etc. That being said, I see that your sink is in the island so maybe you did that to hide it? Do you definitely want your sink in the island? Do you want that shape of an island? What is the other little triangular piece between the hallway and the sink? If you have an office in the mudroom, do you want a desk in the kitchen? Many people have changed their kitchen desks into wet bar areas and I was thinking that perhaps you would benefit from that entire area being wet bar. Just some thoughts. Hopefully an expert will chime in.

  • 15 years ago

    I am using Home Designer Suite 7.0 - it's an older version, but it works for me. If you get it at Sam's club or costco for around $90-100, there is a $30 rebate.

    I think I would like a raised bar to hide the sink. The kitchen will be open to the entry foyer, family room and the breakfast area. I am thinking the raised bar will be the only "visual division" between the spaces. The triangle is the island - I am not sure about that yet. The breakfast nook is on the other side of the island. Here is an expanded view of that part of the house. I would like the desk in the kitchen for monitoring the kids computer use. I may be crazy to think they won't have a way to access the internet in a few years other than the public computer, but that is my goal. We are still a ipad, iphone, smartphone free family. One laptop suffices for us all so far. :) I am planning for part of the butler's pantry to serve as a wet bar/coffee bar. Thanks for responding so quickly.

  • 15 years ago

    Have you given any thought to one larger (really large) island ? I think your space would allow for a much larger more multi-purpose island and then you could get rid of the little one which I am not crazy about. This kitchen could potentially be a candidate for two somewhat larger islands *(see link). Its just something to think about.

    Here is a link that might be useful: Momto4kids' kitchen with two islands

  • 15 years ago

    The stove is right in the path from the living room to the fridge, powder room, and office. I'd want it on the wall where you show the fridge and oven, and maybe move the baking area to that higher traffic path. That angled island provides lots of seating, but doesn't do much for the work area of the kitchen. Have you tried what others are suggesting, either one large island, or straighten the angled island and have a prep island in the center?

    Yours reminds me, somewhat of twogirlsbigtrouble's kitchen, only hers started out smaller. Her breakfast room was at the top, the great room out to the left, and the kitchen situated kind of in the middle of the house...all like yours.

    Here is a link that might be useful: Another thread where I shared Twogirls' plan and drawing

  • 15 years ago

    I'd ditch the angled space wasting island shape in favor of one larger island. Angled kitchens are a pet peeve of mine, though. They use up a lot of real estate and provide very little storage for the space they occupy because of all of the dead space given over to the angles. You have to have a pretty large kitchen to not miss the storage space the dead space occupies. And they also force people into some less than optimum functionality. In your space, having the sink in that location means that only one person at a time can use it. You really need a prep sink with that layout, only the teensy island is too small for that, but it's too large for the tiny clearances around the fridge. It needs to be smaller to clear the fridge correctly, so you might as well lose it entirely.

    I'd also swap the two wall functions around completely as was previously suggested. The fridge is the most used appliance in your kitchen, and you want it more accessible to the family room without folks having to come through your prep zone.

    You little ones must be very little indeed to not have their own laptops. The schools here require them to have one for each student, and we're not remotely in a wealthy school district. My girlfriends 3 year old has her own little netbook that she uses. I'm saying this because I think the kitchen desk will be a total waste of space. I can see you putting your wall oven there though, with a small landing space. Then the bottom wall could be a lower counter height, which would be great next to the fridge for the kids, and it could serve as a baking area close to the wall oven as well. That would keep the wall oven fairly close to the cooktop on the back wall so that dishes that required finishing off in the oven wouldn't be a trek all the way across traffic lanes.

  • 15 years ago

    Sorry but I'm with the others who aren't fans of the angled island. Too much wasted space. I'm also concerned about the cooktop where it is, in a traffic path and I'm not sure how it would be vented (ask the builder.)

    I like the idea of two large straight islands. In case it helps, here are some inspiration pictures for kitchens with 2 islands, one of them backing up to a FR space. These have columns by the island nearest the FR, but you could skip those.

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