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Inset Cabinets with or without glaze

15 years ago

I am trying to make up my mind to save money and go with another brand (either Woodmark from Home Depot with their great specials right now or Kemper from another local store... both will be full overlay) or go with what I fell in love with that is a few thousand more dollars without some free goodies.

I fell in love with the Shiloh Beaded Inset cabinets with the crown molding in a local show room that had no glaze and was in the polar finish. I brought over my painted boards and it seems to be a touch darker than BM Cloud White that I love and goes so nicely with my new 18" ILVA tiles and my Brazilian Cherry floors in the next room. I really like the Polar finish. The kitchen designer there is very talented and knowledgeable and is able to change one of the two door cabinets to all drawers for only $160 more.

I see so many pictures with beautiful glazes on this website and glazes are free and so is the flush inset and the beaded inset until the end of the year for Shiloh cabinets. If I buy granite from them, they will give me a free stainless steel sink. So I can get it free but I loved the look in the show room just the way the doors were with the recessed door and drawer and the satin nickel knobs. I want I think both satin nickel knobs and pulls.

So any comment about the glazing? Any comments about is it worth it to get the inset look I love despite the extra cost? Would I miss not having the recycling trash can and regular trashcan inside a cabinet that will also take up a badly needed cabinet since my kitchen is only 12 X 14 and right now I am using a beautiful stainless steel trashcan for trash and I keep my cans and bottles and paper and cardboard in a big trashcan in the garage.

Comments (7)

  • 15 years ago

    Glazing -I think its so much easier if you see something you like on display. I'd say if you love it, go with it, cause you never know what the unseen will actually look like on a scale larger than a chip.

    Full overlay or inset is a personal decision I think. Only you can decide if its worth it to you.

    I will say that you need to be sure what cabinetry line of Kemper you are comparing. They have three different quality options. The basic option that I priced in a full overlay, stained maple with glaze, was more expensive than better quality cabinets such as Plain and Fancy.

  • 15 years ago

    I am having shiloh beaded inset installed right now. I got most of the cabinets in the soft white finish without glaze. I think its really a clean, classic look. I was considering the Shiloh highlight for a while, but decided it didnt really add to the appearance - just made the door look slightly dingy. I did however get a black glaze on my stained cabinets, that looks great. Shiloh was higher than Lowes and Ultracraft, but by about 10% more roughly. To get what I really wanted, it was worth it. So far so good.

  • 15 years ago

    Dilly_Ny, and designnov, thank you both for replying. I think I will go without the glaze. I still want to compare the soft white finish with the Polar finish but I think my tiles would look best with the Polar finish that I like since it is not too stark and is a nicer white slightly darker than the Linen Lowe's and Home Depot had. I prefer the inset look since I also agree that it is a clean, classic look that is so elegant and beautiful. I was going to look at the beaded inset doors from Plain and Fancy also but when I called a local store, she said they were more expensive than many of the other brands but it sounds like they are a better price than the Kemper cabinets.

    I love the style of the Shiloh beaded inset cabinets to have the recessed and the beading around the edges in both the doors and drawers.

    The Lowe's and Home Depot have only three styles to chose from if I want a painted Maple cabinet with solid doors and all plywood. One style is so pretty but I decided just too fancy for my small kitchen. The other two styles have slab drawers but that is what I would have to go with if I want a less fancy door.

    The difference is a lot more than 10% due to the great discount that the big box stores are offering right now with the free goodies. But I am starting to see that the free goodies may not be that great after all since I need cabinet space. I am still waiting for installation prices that maybe will make up the difference. I also need someone to install my tiles, remove the soffits and remove the old cabinets.

    I have been wanting to get another price for the Shiloh cabinets from someone else local to me but Shiloh has not gotten back to me on other local dealers so maybe this one store is the only store that sells the cabinets in my area?

    I have to go back to the store with my pots and pans since that is what the kitchen designer wants me to do before I choose the drawers over the pull out drawers/shelves behind the cabinet doors.

    I just got a price for the granite from the local store for the A granite so I know if I want something in the B granite it will be more. Did you get everything from the same place you bought the cabinets from? I seem to like the Light Venetian (A granite), New Venetian Gold (B granite), Santa Celia Light (B Granite I think), and Giallo Ornamental (either an A or B granite but a B Granite for sure at Home Depot).

  • 15 years ago

    a sugggestion - have you gotten a quote from a local cabinet maker? they are hurting for work and may be able to match or do even better than the quotes you are getting. we are in the same boat - small kitchen, need to fit in a lot. i went custom and was able to fit in much more that i would have been able to. i did get the trash cabinet squeezed in too! i would skip glazing, think a simple white is more classic.

  • 15 years ago

    Babushka_cat, Thank you for letting me know that your cabinets were customer and you got a great price. I will try a quote from a local cabinet maker. Did he build the cabinets for you? I love your kitchen so much. I have decided I am skipping the glazing. I really love the Inset and again went to Home Depot to finalize what I would want so they can give me an install price next week on the Charlottesville kitchen style. I prefer the recessed Inset look but I am going to use this as a price comparison and then find an installer to see what the price is to install the Shiloh Recessed door and drawer cabinets in the Polar finish. If I could find a local cabinet maker to do it for less and custom, I am not loyal to any brand, I just want a functional kitchen (my cabinets are terrible) with no blind corners, pull out drawers in cabinets, trash can cabinet, crown molding as well as removing my soffit and old cabinets. I also need the tiles installed that I bought so that is part of the price of removing the Linoleum Floor and installing the tiles. I also want that awful Fluorescent huge light removed and recessed lights installed. It is amazingly coming to a lot of money.

  • 14 years ago

    Well, I got the price from Home Depot, they want $24,000 to do my 10X 14 kitchen and that does not include the tiles I bought already or the appliances I already own. I like the Charlotte cabinets but I don't love them like I do the Shiloh cabinets and Babushka_cat's cabinets and many others on this list. I was hoping to save money since they have the best organization features included but the installation was a lot. The local cabinet guy wants about $30,500 (but it includes recessed lighting and lighting under the cabinets.... if I was in love with his door style which I am not... I would have him remove items to get the price down) and I have not found out what the installation would be for the over $13,000 Shiloh Inset cabinets Plus the $3800 Granite A counters plus the installation of my tiles and installing lighting yet. I have a feeling it will be around the higher price than these two. So now I am not sure what to do or where to look. My kitchen is only 10 X 14 and I have all my appliances and the tiles to do the floors, so how can it me this much or is this the price for installing tile with the brick pattern, putting in a new light fixture that I bought already and removing a soffit with nothing under it, removing cabinets, installing cabinets and installing the new counters.

  • 14 years ago

    P.S. none of the kitchen designs have any glass cabinets so I don't see why they cost so much but maybe this is the price? The Shiloh Cabinets will not have all the pull-out shelves I want since that will raise the price over $14,000 plus the $3800 install of the counters. I have no idea what the tile install, lighting and cabinet removal and install including removal of the soffit will be but the Shiloh cabinets are more money so far than the other two places. I have to figure out other places to look before deciding what I want. I just didn't want to overspend on my place with the market the way it is but I want a kitchen I will enjoy working in and looking at.