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HELP! Tile layer here - unexpected problem -help!

15 years ago

CRAP!

After many delays, the tile installer's here - but he's mainly a brick layer he's telling me (his "partner" - the guy I originally hired, who does subway backsplash all the time - sent him in his place - yeah) so he wants ME to decide on the design and where to start and whether or not it should wrap around the corner in that optical illusion way or what. He says he promises he's a great tile layer and it will look great and that I don't have to worry about the quality of the job other than deciding on that. I'd been asking you guys such questions originally but when a few of you said that a pro will know what to do, I finally decided to release my death grip and trust that they'll know what to do! hahaha! (she laughs, maniacally!)

The long countertop turns the corner on each side - so the countertop's essentially shaped like this: [ There will most likely be a TV or toaster in the corner, hiding the tile in that location, though I certainly don't want it to look bad just because it will usually be hidden. That means that the far end perpendicular wall will be what's seen more when you walk in the room - not the actual corner itself.

QUESTIONS!:

1. If we start tile at that far end, by the doorway, and start tiling in toward the corner before turning the corner to cover the long rear wall behind the countertop, SHOULD THE TILES ALWAYS DO THAT CONTINUATION THING where - if there's a smaller strip on the small end-wall, the piece as it wraps around the corner should be bigger, etc.?? Is that just standard procedure no matter what?

Another factor worth sharing is that since it's honed white calacatta marble tile, it aesthetically "needs" to have as small a grout line as possible - so 1/16".

2. Is that appropriate even if on one of the walls, the piece is more of a strip as opposed to something bigger like 1/3 or 1/2 a piece? e.g. our tiles are 2x6" and by 6" I really mean a little less than 6" (they were cut from 12" x 12" tiles, originally). In some cases the tile could/most likely will leave only about 1.5-2" of a strip. Is that unacceptable, even if it's wrapping around a corner to continue on the other side? We can't fudge much just because of not wanting the grout line to be thicker.

3. My choices appear to be to start at the very very end, meaning the side wall closest to the door; or to start in the corner (which could mean the area by the door would have awkwardly thin strips) or to start behind the faucet in the center of the long countertop which would leave thin strips at the end.

NOT SURE WHAT TO DO! I hate this pressure. Are there any rules of thumb when one has such hard decisions? Lesser of evils and such?

Thank you thank you thank you.

Comments (8)

  • 15 years ago

    I would stop him and send him on his way. What does laying brick have to do with tile.. Bail while you can...

  • 15 years ago

    My tile layer, who is my brother and knows what he is doing, started at the corner. The first tile laid was the one on the bottom right. Second one was the bottom left. I don't know if that helps cause I am not getting the "skinny long pieces" part you are talking about.

    {{!gwi}}

    The one thing I would watch for is the design of how he is laying it. Some guys don't intuitively know where grout lines would look best. If you don't want him to stair-step it, let him know. If it's straight on normal brick pattern you want, that's fairly straitforward and shouldn't be hard for him. But if you want a random look like I wanted, you may need to watch him so he doesn't end up stair-stepping it or something else.

    For instance, my brother put the first tile down, then when it came time to lay the 4" x 24" above that, he just put another one there. When he got to the 3rd row on top of that, he asked if I wanted a grout break for randomness or if I just wanted the 4x24s stacked up. I would have chosen a break in the second one, but it's too late.

    But I think that's just part design sense and part preference. A person can be a pro at installing tile, but not necessarily have the best design sense. And for that, I'd stay involved while he is laying it.

  • 15 years ago

    My tile guy laid out the tile working from center out so it all matched up.

  • 15 years ago

    All layouts begin at the center of the install, or a focal point.

  • 15 years ago

    Good plan - have the guy who knows what he's doing (you know, the one you hired) come do it. If the brick layer wants to learn tile, he can learn under the partner/boss.

    I can just hear it: "But that's the way you told me to do it!"

  • 15 years ago

    Ignore the #2 guy. He's not the one you hired. And besides, you've got more important things to be worrying about right now! The tile will work out. Concentrate on your sick DH and the little ones!

  • 15 years ago

    I hope the boss guy comes back and knows what he is doing. Honestly, installing the tile is the EASY part, especially for something relatively simple like subway tile. I've done two subway backsplashes myself, and BY FAR the most difficult part is the layout planning, to make sure it all looks good and professional. I'm so glad you didn't let #1 guy continue.