That's going to be a lovely garden, suz! I love all the curves. And your cute puppy! Is that a corgi?

If it was me, I'd probably plant the roses first and then fill in with clematis & perennials. I think lavender/sage looks really nice with roses. It would be pretty to put obelisk trellises in the three outer curves and it'd keep them from hiding behind roses, if you decide to go that route.

I think it depends on what type of gardens you like, if you like the more messy cottage garden look, then I'd plant whatever roses & clematis you want! If you want something more formal then I have no idea because I'm not good at formal! ;)

Either way, good luck! I'm sure you'll get lots of wonderful advice. Looking forward to seeing what you create!

Michaela

Michaela,

Thanks! Yes, that is my spoiled Corgi, named Blaze. He is always involved in my garden planning..ha ha.

Thanks for the idea on the Obelisk. I did not even think of that. I could put some smaller clematis on them.

I like the cottage garden look as well. I am fairly new to this, so just trying to figure things out.

Thanks again for your help!

He is adorable! Maybe you should plant the climbing rose Blaze Improved for him! :) My German Shepherd Max is always "helping" me too but he's usually squishing my flowers!

I really like the look of obelisks with clematis on them. Amazon has some really inexpensive ones that are very durable and look really nice. I have two 7' ones on either side of my front door and they are solid. We've had thunderstorms that have thrown our patio table acrossed the yard and the obelisks don't even budge. If you decide to go that route let me know and I'll link you to the ones I ordered!

I am new to gardening as well - this will be my third summer. Try not to stress too much & just plant what you love. I've never seen a garden full of roses & clematis that I didn't like... I don't think it's possible!!

You're welcome. :)

Michaela

Michaela,

The 7 ft tall ones sound great. Mine are only
3 feet tall. If you could give me the link that
would be great. Thanks again for your help.

Absolutely! Here you go. The same variety comes in 5' and 8'. I am tempted to get the 8' now that I see that. They are really great! They are bronze, but they are very dark and look almost black.

Here is a link that might be useful: Amazon Obelisks

Thanks so much. Do you have clematis on them? I wonder if I would have to get a dwarf clematis or if I got a taller variety if it would pile up on the top of the oliesk trying to grow more. For instance the blaze rose gets 13ft I think. What do u have on yours?

Have you looked at David Austin roses? They have a lot of varieties that can be grown as small climbers and shouldn't overwhelm the trellises. I haven't grown them before but I have a bunch of them on order for the spring. They are beautiful roses.

If you decide to order DAs, Heirloom, Antique Rose Emporium, and Chamblees have great selections.

I am growing Blue Light on a shorter obelisk, I believe that one stays around 6-8 feet. Diamantina is also on the shorter side. I don't grow a ton of Clematis yet but I know there are some shorter varieties out there!

Are you familiar with Help Me Find? It's my favorite place to research roses & clematis and just look at all the pretty photos. You can go to advance search but I didn't see an option for clematis height.

Hope that helps a little bit! :)

Michaela

Here is a link that might be useful: David Austin Climbers

Thank you so much. You have helped me a lot and I appreciate it. I will check out these links. Enjoy your gardens this Spring!! :)

..that's a gorgeous looking border just ready for planting with some lovely things... like Michaela, I too have obelisks, although mine are rectangular shaped.... I've got 6 altogether...yeah I went mad.... and all Austin roses growing up them... my latest two are 'the Generous Gardener' and 'The Lark Ascending' which both grow to 6 foot or so here... just as an example...

...for your white wall there, I think if it was mine, I might do something like this, have a long flowering pink climbing rose in the middle, with a Clematis each side, making 3 plants in all to train up... presumably you will be putting some form of support on the wall, like wires or trellis?... I might put in an obelisk at the far corner at the curve, so I could see it from that window, although right at this end I notice a tall wooden support, and here instead I might plant a twining climber as it's right next to the soil so I could put one in there to climb up that wooden pole....something like a Honeysuckle, if you grow those where you are...

....for infilling I like Lavender angustifolia in either blue or white for edging and infill with other plants of one's choice, low growing plants...

...for my climbing rose as a centrepiece up the wall, I believe one called 'Climbing Pinkie' is popular and available from Antique Rose Emporium hardy to zone 6... with Clematis, say 'H.F. Young' or a dark purple one like Jackmanii as well... I like that, but personal choice really...

..just some suggestions for you from thousands of miles away, but happy choosing... it will look great I'm sure in time... and I wish it was mine...lol...

suz, you are so welcome! I am glad it helped! Enjoy making your beautiful garden!

marlorena - side note, would love to see your rectangle obelisks w/ your roses on them. They sound beautiful!

Michaela

hi Michaela... thanks for asking about them.. ..

,,,mine are not expensive, maybe about 50-60 dollars equivalent each..... anything above that would be a bit too costly, and I have various heights through 4, 5 and over 6 feet, so suitable for short climbers... anything higher would be out of place a bit for me here...they're kind of box shaped and they do have decorative finials at the top which look quite nice.....I hope they last me a good few years... and I plant them deeply so they don't get dislodged with the wind...
all this is fairly new so my plants are quite short right now, but should reach the tops this summer and I hope they will then billow over, and cascade a bit...

...at least you can see the outline of them here...

.this is a rose with clematis 'Corinne'... a short variety...

...a white rose with Clematis 'Tekla' another shortie...

..this is an English rose 'Royal Jubilee'... I've got a clematis 'The Vagabond' with it, but newly planted so not in shot..

..but at least gives you an idea of what I'm trying to do here.... I have little space so have to grow upwards and keep things confined....

kind regards....

Marlorena I love your combinations of clematis & roses. Royal Jubilee is just stunning and those obelisks are lovely. I like the square shape and the decorative lines on them. They are timeless. Thank you for sharing.

Michaela

..thanks to both of you here...

Suz... they are both Austin English roses.... the pink one is 'Thomas a Becket', and the white is 'Tranquillity'...

both scented, grow in part shade here, and flower for a long time... I grow them as short climbers... they can be just grown as shrubs in the border... I don't know if they would be available in the U.S though or what zone they would need....

..I'm glad you liked them....